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Tinman's Recent Claim- Discussion and Tinker
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(03-20-2024, 04:12 AM)MagnaProp Wrote: I am very excited to see this thread and to see TinMan back at work on OUR. I am here thanks to seeing the (Chet K) OUR post that lists other forums to join as I am unfortunately not a member of that site. I was a member of the (overunity) site working in TinMan's thread to replicate his motor when the site was sadly shut down. So I am again thrilled to see his efforts revived. Jim Mac ain't no dummy so I just hope he doesn't get close enough to the answer that is scares TinMan away before he can do the reveal he has planned.

@Jim Mac, I'm not seeing much if any cogging in your (The Magnetic gears are turning) video. I would have thought there would be much more visible cogging. Does this method eliminate cogging that would be present if individual magnets were used instead of the field extending bolts?

I am glad to see you here.  

I certainly do not want to scare anyone away.  I believe the claim is real and am not questioning the legitimacy of it.  As I see it, Tinman has been answering some questions, posting video hints, and leaving us a bread trail. I will try not to bother him with my meandering questions, and I won't be an annoyance to him directly.  

Now to your question. That design wasn't totally correct.  I was building based on Tinman's pictures without any operational clue.  The bolts are magnetized, but pretty weak. They do respond to an outside magnet (both attraction and repulsion) but they may not be magnetized enough for bolt to affect bolt. 

But now a new outlook popped out of the woodwork.  This new outlook uses most the same parts and effects shown in Tinman's videos, but now answers vital operational questions..  For instance, why magnetize bolts instead of just using magnets directly?  I built it without quite understanding the point on why or how the machine could self-spin..  

I'll drop this hint..  Turns out, the magnetized bolts have a much more important purpose than just creating weak magnetic field.  The setup allows you to do something that can't be done with permanent magnets.  It attacks the very nexus of how virtually any motor works.  

There is a good chance I got it wrong again, so don't take anything I say to the bank.  The bench will reveal.
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#22
It is good to see you having a go at this.
Watching closely.
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#23
Tinman just gave us another vital hint, which fortifies my previous post.

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index....#msg110921

Since he let the cat out of the bag, there is a way to flip polarities of the bolts that are magnetized, without physically flipping a magnet.

As a side note, I am not claiming that the operation was my thought. I may or may not have received help in seeing this
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#24
I think gravity is going to play an important role or centrifugal force which are essentially one and the same g force.
Set a ring magnet on top of a horizontal piece of steel pipe at tdc now give it a slight push it will run down around the pipe and back up the other side but then recoil back down to bottom dead center.
If you lay a track leading to the pipe that goes up over the pipe and continues around half way,  the magnet will get sucked towards the pipe following the track but once the weight of the magnet travels down around the pipe gravity will kick in and pull the track away from the pipe and the centrifugal force will make the magnet release from the track.
I think this shows how to neutralize magnetic attraction and it boils down to centrifugal force and gravity.
I've done the experiment and it works but how to make it practical?
May have nothing to do with Tinnman's work just saying
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#25
""works by neutralizing the magnetic fields of apposing magnets at a certain point, and then flipping to repulsion mode once the rotor magnets have passed"" all action on 2 circles ----> circle1 has magnet and circle2 has steel. circle1 and circle2 rotate because of atraction till sticky spot, but on sticky spot moment u can add to the steel side circle2 same polarity magnet as on circle 1 and then u can get repulsion. So all the secret is that on stell u can switch on/off and change polarity. And maybe on his setup is third whell for this purpose

or this is wheel within the wheel on steel side of rotor for field switching.
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(03-20-2024, 03:08 PM)gyvulys666 Wrote: ""works by neutralizing the magnetic fields of apposing magnets at a certain point, and then flipping to repulsion mode once the rotor magnets have passed""    all action on 2 circles ----> circle1 has magnet and circle2 has steel. circle1 and circle2 rotate because of atraction till sticky spot, but on sticky spot moment u can add to the steel side circle2 same polarity magnet as on circle 1 and then u can get repulsion. So all the secret is that on stell u can switch on/off and change polarity. And maybe on his setup is third whell for this purpose

or this is wheel within the wheel on steel side of rotor for field switching.
  
Think auto switching polarities. No need to flip the polarity of a magnet physically. Self-timed automatic polarity flipper. No input energy required.
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#27
"Self-timed automatic polarity flipper" as i understand this is possible only when steel takes property(pole) of near magnet
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(03-20-2024, 04:44 PM)gyvulys666 Wrote: "Self-timed automatic polarity flipper" as i understand this is possible only when steel takes property(pole) of near magnet

Okay cool. Now we have rotating iron bolts that are magnetized. And we need to flip the polarity of these bolts.

We do not want to physically flip the magnet over. We want the magnetic domains of the iron bolts to reverse automatically and at an exact time every half rotation.

It is possible to achieve with no input power and no physically flipping a magnet.
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#29
If a rotating disc holding bolts were to pass over a north polarity, they would take on that field through proximity and the same occurs over a south polarity - much like a generator with rotating coils, alternating between north and south as they pass over each polarity...
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(03-20-2024, 07:57 PM)unimmortal Wrote: If a rotating disc holding bolts were to pass over a north polarity, they would take on that field through proximity and the same occurs over a south polarity - much like a generator with rotating coils, alternating between north and south as they pass over each polarity...

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Lets call the bolts "Dynamic Magnets" because they are dynamically flipping polarity..

Now we need the 2 rotors to attract as 2 bolts are coming together and repel as 2 other bolts are departing. (at the same time) And neutralized at top dead center. 

And for the clincher, it needs to remain in that state with each and every bolt that passes TDC.

Using what has been stated,  there is a configuration that does this.


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