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Introducing... The Adams Axial
#41
Looking forward to hearing about your oscilloscope insights when you get around to testing, unimmortal.
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#42
Thanks Ovun.

Here's yet another video of yet another configuration. I'm liking the pulse coils between rotors, and the offset generator coils on top can be bought much closer to the rotor.

With gen coils able to breathe now, I can start to see the interactions between coils under short circuit and load conditions.



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https://youtube.com/shorts/VVyiCCrlN-s?s...BbFEMs47WA
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#43
I'll have a much bigger post coming soon, but in the meantime, let's slow things down ...

https://youtube.com/shorts/4Ds4gfu7a2E?s..._yaLboo9G4

The airgap between gen coils (20mm dia cores) and rotor is ~6mm, the airgap for the pulse coils (13mm dia core) is ~12mm.

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https://youtu.be/A_iAZMOj31o?si=7BcM0jyGrq7TNOeT
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#44
SUCCESS!!!

After a long few weeks, I've finally opened the crack.

I've found when I pass the induced voltage from the native gen coils to the re-gauged gen coils via a diode that I can get an almost even amount of voltage in both bucking coils. 

When in place, I can get a 15W mains led globe flickering at ~60V, and on at around 65V. This is with an input voltage of 30V @ 430ma or 13W. 

That is contrasted with a globe directly on the joined native gen coils only just starting to flicker at 36V @ 510ma or 18W. The native gen coils make ~90V. 

An alternative configuration has the re-gauged coils in a loop via a diode to maintain an induced field that the native coils are then leaning on to derive current. North field >< North field. This one is interesting as the field induced in the re-guaged coils is being passed down the core, past the native coils and is repelling the rotor (N) with a North field - with the coil end closest to the magnet creating a S field. Input current drops to below what it takes to run just the pulse coils with this setup, and it speeds up quite a bit - the negative is that it looses some current, and only just gets the globe lit @18W.

Now I need to work out whether to increase the gap between coils to allow the field to grow - I can definitely see the restricting effect of an opposite equal field (and I can get the rotor shuddering at the right voltages), and I want more volts Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.
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#45
(11-09-2024, 08:26 PM)unimmortal Wrote: SUCCESS!!!

After a long few weeks, I've finally opened the crack.

I've found when I pass the induced voltage from the native gen coils to the re-gauged gen coils via a diode that I can get an almost even amount of voltage in both bucking coils. 

When in place, I can get a 15W mains led globe flickering at ~60V, and on at around 65V. This is with an input voltage of 30V @ 430ma or 13W. 

That is contrasted with a globe directly on the joined native gen coils only just starting to flicker at 36V @ 510ma or 18W. The native gen coils make ~90V. 

An alternative configuration has the re-gauged coils in a loop via a diode to maintain an induced field that the native coils are then leaning on to derive current. North field >< North field. This one is interesting as the field induced in the re-guaged coils is being passed down the core, past the native coils and is repelling the rotor (N) with a North field - with the coil end closest to the magnet creating a S field. Input current drops to below what it takes to run just the pulse coils with this setup, and it speeds up quite a bit - the negative is that it looses some current, and only just gets the globe lit @18W.

Now I need to work out whether to increase the gap between coils to allow the field to grow - I can definitely see the restricting effect of an opposite equal field (and I can get the rotor shuddering at the right voltages), and I want more volts Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.

Nice..  You have a lot posted in this thread, can you possibly clarify the whole hookup in an easy illustration?
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#46
Ok, here is a simple couple of diagrams to make sense of what I'm doing.

I've rationalised 12 coils down to 4 (3 per set), so that the alternating between coil sets is easier to visualise.

The one on the left has optional switches in blue that I haven't tried yet - these will be a commutator of some type. AC can be tapped at any of the four outputs (red leads). The induced field from the CW coil is added to the CCW coil - this is additive but creates too much difference so I need to drop 5-10V on the way to the CCW coils.

Bypassing the diodes, I'll see CW=85V and CCW=105V

The one on the right can be likened to an alternator whereby a field is maintained by the top CCW coils for the CW coils to work against.

The orange arrows represent the two fields that grow and buck each other.

   

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Edit: As you can see in the photo, that pesky differential (load dependant) is preventing the voltage getting close to even. Once the CW and CCW coils are at parity, it will only take a little tickle in the form of a capacitor to get an oscillation between CW and CCW coils.

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#47
Ok, last update in this series - I've put an additional 5mm plate in to take the airgap between gen coils to 15mm.

As per the previous post I'm now seeing : CW=105V, CCW=140V (@17W), and can now power the led globe with as little as 10W...


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#48
After reflecting on the latest lot of data, I've increased the airgap between gen coils to 20mm and that has done the trick. Voltage builds much more evenly and isn't suffocated by its partner coil. Doing an open circuit run netted 117V (CW) / 147V (CCW) @ 22W

Further heavy testing over the last two days has also revealed I needed to increase the airgap between rotor and gen coils to better balance the CW/CCW. So that is now equal to the pulse coils.

The result? Using both configurations previously posted, I can drop the led globe on it as a load and there is zero change in current input, very little if any change in rpm, and only a small drop in volts. The globe is giving good feedback through its flickering as the coils go through different oscillations, making tuning a little easier.

So in short, FREE ENERGY BABY!

I've also noticed I'm still getting rotor wobble at high speed. This is not from misalignment, but the CCW coils still exerting a force down the core and repelling the rotor. Something I need to ponder on.
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#49
Looking forward to the end result..  Have you tested with a Cap Bank?

Power the input from a cap bank and re-charge the same bank with the output to see if can self sustain?  Of course you can use a supply initially to get it going up to proper RPM then disconnect and see what happens.
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#50
(11-15-2024, 09:49 PM)Jim Mac Wrote: Looking forward to the end result..  Have you tested with a Cap Bank?

Power the input from a cap bank and re-charge the same bank with the output to see if can self sustain?  Of course you can use a supply initially to get it going up to proper RPM then disconnect and see what happens.

Probably a little early for that, but definitely on the list. I need to work out how I'm getting N on the rotor end of the coils which starts working against the N of the rotor, and then working out how to fix it.

This will hopefully just come down to balancing the coils better.
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