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Hello everyone I'm here because I'd like to know if someone on this forum can help me with a fringe science claim.
The late lt Col Thomas Bearden has said that J.P Morgan was the one who tasked H.A Lorentz to symmetrize and therefor cripple Maxwells equations so that they wouldn't contain any over unity electromagnetic systems which future electrical engineer would get to know about.
I know that H.A Lorentz was a member of the International Committee on Intellectual Cooperation, CICI in the league of nations (the precursor to the UN). I've tried searching around in their archives after any kind of document that contains the name J.P Morgan, which have yielded some results at least.
Bearden also said that Sir John Ambrose Flemming who had studied under Maxwell and worked as a scientific advisor for Edisons electric lighting company in England was asked about the differences between Maxwell's theory and Heaviside's interpretation of his theory and if they contained any asymmetric EM systems (Overunity) from which one could get more work out than in because J. P Morgan wanted to supress the physics of tesla and make the future field of electrical engineering harmless against J . P Morgans energy from fuel empire.
The question I'd like to ask is whether or not anyone on this forum has a source to back up what Thomas bearden said because I'm starting to think that Tom Bearden made it up or was mistaken about this, but what do you all think?
Here's a link to SVPwiki where Thomas Bearden talks about this:
https://www.svpwiki.com/Bearden-on-Tesla...rce-Charge
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Welcome,
My reply won't be much help, but it is what it is..
If such claims were true, it certainly would not be documented in the official record. And if it is documented, it will be some obscure writing that is not backed by mainstream.
The only way to know for sure is to prove it by creating Overunity. And that's what we try to do because we believe it's possible.
It does seem like a strange coincidence to me that certain electromagnetic configurations / phases / geometries are not really commercially produced or available, and it's very difficult sourcing pre-built things that can even be dismantled and altered to make those configurations. Almost like they are keeping certain angles out of the public thought and realm of exploration. But this is just a conspiracy theory with no proof (YET).
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https://www.svpwiki.com/Bearden-on-Tesla...rce-Charge
While Dale Pond is prolific in his writings and 'sources', Dale misses a lot of pure Physics.
He is correct in that the Universe is based upon Sympathetic Vibratory Phenomena but he does not have the Mechanism for it to become ' Physics'.
His thesis is based upon all the usual suspects in over unity but what he lacks is Inventions. Walter Russell also lacked inventions. Devices that 'prove' his theory. No one can reverse engineer Tesla's inventions or Keelys. I believe that the Tribe's publishers like Maxwell of Epstien island fame, who printed near ALL textbooks used in 'schools' changed certain words and solidified fake terms as new science so people no longer can understand Tesla. It worked too.
Primarily, NO ONE on the planet has the MECHANISM for the generation of both AC and DC in wires. You will find it here at my 'bench' and at joecellwaterscience.com.
The mechanism includes the Force Lines of Magnets acting upon Iron Crystals in Field Cores and Elemental Vibrations interacting as Sympathetic Vibrations to Generate Direct Pressure. ( spinning magnets Force Lines next to another lump of iron 'excites' the Crystals inducing Pressure and a battery is 2 Differing elemental vibrations in close proximity that induces "electrolysis' or oxidation and this is the 'source' of Battery Vibrational DC.)
from svpwiki "From Tom Bearden:
This is the background of how the present electrical engineering model (and practice) was severely curtailed to exclude COP>1.0 electrical power systems taking their excess EM energy directly from their interaction with the active medium (the active vacuum or spacetime).
The KEY words here are "electrical power systems taking their excess EM energy directly from their interaction with the active medium (the active vacuum or spacetime). " This is the Aether Energy Grid, 5th Element or Quintessence. Described as the God Force by some, its Form and manifestation, Tesla actually Hid as a Mechanical Contraption to keep this a secret. Tesla, Joe and I all agree humans cant handle God Science in a satanic Usury Age undergoing a revolutionary reset.
Tesla's Multi Phased Motors can be Aetheric Over Unity Generators or just plain 'generators'. Plain generators can also be over unity and this has been accomplished by many a DEAD inventor. The easiest configuration is to use the human body as a 'template' and add a battery (Brain) in the Circuitry. Its a simple step to then make Aetheric energy by using 2 or more rotating magnetic Fields like Keely stated. Pond doesnt understand Keely or Tesla.
We found another motor the other day that slipped through the cracks that can be made into an Aetheric Generator. The Miele 'round' washing machine motor. It looks like any single phase washing machine motor.
Yes, Tesla utilized rotating magnetic Fields to generate EM energy. We all do. its how most everything electrical is powered. We call this using the 4 Elemental States of Matter and their sympathetic Vibratory interaction to generate 'electrical pressure'. These can be over unity if one understand the Physics of Electricity as Tesla thought of it.
The ACTIVE Medium or loosely called Vacuum energy or ZPE, is utilizing the 5th Elemental State to generate 'NON Hertzian electrical pressure''. HUGE Difference to using the other 4 Elemental States of matter to Generate Pressure.
The 2 Methodologies are as different as chalk and cheese. One utilizes South Pole Positive Forces the other, North Pole Negative Non Hertzian Aetheric energy. NO ONE since Tesla (besides Joe and his Cells) have any devices or inventions to show this difference. Tesla stated in words to the effect, that every object in the universe has a natural rotating magnetic Field about its object.
YET... SVPwiki Quotes Keely
No magnetism exists in iron; but ether, in a certain state of vibration which we call magnetic, acts through the instrumentality of the iron.
Everything is Magnetic. Iron is MORE magnetic and its Field can be INCREASED by Charging Up with a car battery. Iron is made in a high pH environment (inside bones) by Biological organics. Iron was not part of the big bang compost heap. Life Force Energies ALTER MATTER.
Even Keely was wrong. Only TESLA was 100% Right.
This Keely Based SVPwiki thesis is at odds with Tesla Science where Everything has the Toroidal Rotating Magnetic Field and thus is Magnetic with 2 obvious Poles. You will end up confused if you consider Keely based SVP to be 100% correct.
SVPwiki of JoeCells https://www.svpwiki.com/Joe+Cell?highlig...%20cell%22
This is PURE GARBAGE. Taken from a manual that guaranteed failure to all those who followed it.
If Dale Pond looked into JoeCells he would have to we-write most of his 14,000 pages.
The JoeCells, and there are dozens of Designs (inventions) all using Tesla's Rotating Magnetic Field Principle and Joe Charges Up this Water Field with battery DC. Joe uses Tesla Science not svpwiki Keely theories. Joe makes RMF's of the Water Crystals as a Unified (RM) Field encompassing the entire container of water as a New Field Effect. Alex rejected these Figure 8's or Infinity Loops that Joe described to him dozens of times, and instead went with Fake and Gay orgone. A JoeCell is a Multi Rotating Magnetic Field effect. Both Keely and Tesla said words to the effect two or more Rotating Magnetic Fields will create this Active Medium energy.
SVPwiki says Bearden has a Patent on " METHOD, SYSTEM AND APPARATUS FOR CONDITIONING ELECTROMAGNETIC POTENTIALS, FIELDS, AND WAVES TO TREAT AND ALTER MATTER"
We not only Treat and alter matter, we do it to make ANY element of the periodic table like carbon or Oil from Water
https://rumble.com/vhodfb-full-unedited-...ater..html
AND my humble Panacea, the aquachifootbath, restructures water into Iron Oxides that will not dissolve back into the water. Literally unheard of and impossible say the eggheads to not be able to dissolve a 'precipitate' back into water. It ALTERS MATTER in a way scientists do not understand. With the RIGHT transformer, my humble Panacea will also make 'white paraffin oil' from water. Joe and I dont believe in Patents.
Dale doesnt understand the Vibratory origin and the very Nature of electricity and neither does Bearden yet they think they can do a Thesis on same.
At overunityresearch, posters were SURE that NON Hertzian Energy as Tesla described Aetheric Energy from the Grid, was a Hertzian Longitudinal Wave. They still probably have this Dissociative Cognizance disorder. They just cant get their mind around this God Force from the Universal Energy Grid upon which (the 4 Elemental states of ) ALL Matter (being magnetic and thus 'electrical') NEED a Grid Circuit to MOVE, REST or Exist upon.
Heaven is an Aetheric Energy Grid. The God Force emanates from Heaven. And LITERALLY, to Manifest this God Force in ANY device, be it a Water Cell or a Smart Drive poly phase motor, requires a BELIEF or FAITH that Heaven will provide it if you have multiple Unified RMF's in our inventive creations in a Mental Universe.
There is NO difference between Electricity and Magnetism. We call it electricity because we see it MISCONCEIVED as a 'flow'.
Electricity has 2 Components.
Magnetism has 2 Components.
Both 'manifest' (man created) as Vibrations.
The two terms Electricity and Magnetism conform to Walter Russells Science of only 2 Forces in the Universe. Compression and Expansion.
Positive and negative and North and South poles. The Push Pull forces interact at 90 degrees to each other and this is the MECHANISM FOR ALL ROTATION. We see this Push Pull WAVE Force around a Magnet in the iron filings 'Lines' and 'No Filings' between the Lines.
Joe and I prefer North Pole Negative energy and South Pole Positive energy. Nothing is 'electro-magnetic'. Everything is either electric or its magnetic depending upon who is describing their inventions. Nothing like confusing the Minds of the Beholden in electromagnetism speak.
An 'electric force' IS a 'magnetic force'.
JP Morgan messed up many minds with his Word Spells.
I hope this answers some of your question. I'm starting to think that Tom Bearden made it up
https://www.svpwiki.com/Bearden-on-Tesla...rce-Charge
What this page mostly tells us is the amount of energy the Heavens have to flow from a Scalar Energy Device provided by the active medium, as some sort of mish mashed agreed upon equations dating back to the 1840's.
This now being the scientific standard, your Cell or over unity Spinner, must now pass peer review to be Patented. Problem being, Scalar has no frequency to measure and so Tesla's Aetheric energy renamed source charge from the active medium is now the benchmark for investors. None of these guys know what electrical energy is much less Tesla's Aether energy. Chat Artificial Intelligence will pass expert witness to its efficiency. Progress baby.
The Equations now give us the number of electrons that flow or oscillate depending upon expert witness from the chosen tribe, in a given diameter of wire.
Tesla re-invented Aetheric Energy by understanding the Rotating Magnetic Fields inherent in every object and its augmentation by twin Blood systems in Man to design his Mechanical Contraption to broadcast Free Scalar energy to every corner of the planet. This invention should be called Mechanically creating a Point of Attachment to the Aetheric Grid. My present build is such a device.
But yes its a long read as to why and how they cancelled Tesla. Academia at its finest.
Beardens description of his Matter Transmuter is exactly how I would describe my present build.
Beardons references to his Matter Transmuter exactly fits my Panacea (Alchemists Cure-All) and is so good that Marcy Purnell earned a PhD on same.
It is clear from Beardens own words, https://www.svpwiki.com/Bearden+Patent?h...c%20Fields
that he knows nothing of Scalar Aetheric Energy.
I quote " I understand you made a personal comment to the Secretary of Energy that I was a "crackpot", perhaps because of my activities in attempting to extract electrical energy from the vacuum". https://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?nam...e&sid=3962
Bearden never cracked what Tesla Invented and was buried by equations. His theories are incomplete. For a kilo of silver, I know an average Joe who electrocutes like Beardon tried to do. You can have a choice of electrocution methods. My fav is the Vacuum Cell. The only Seeing is believing device on the planet. Who knows, you might learn that secret you've been looking for all your life.
The only thing Bearden had right was that Tesla reinvented the Healing energy that was used at Hathor's Temple.
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(10-20-2025, 01:16 AM)MerLynn Wrote: https://www.svpwiki.com/Bearden-on-Tesla...rce-Charge
While Dale Pond is prolific in his writings and 'sources', Dale misses a lot of pure Physics.
He is correct in that the Universe is based upon Sympathetic Vibratory Phenomena but he does not have the Mechanism for it to become 'Physics'.
His thesis is based upon all the usual suspects in over unity but what he lacks is Inventions. Walter Russell also lacked inventions. Devices that 'prove' his theory. No one can reverse engineer Tesla's inventions or Keelys. I believe that the Tribe's publishers like Maxwell of Epstien island fame, who printed near ALL textbooks used in 'schools' changed certain words and solidified fake terms as new science so people no longer can understand Tesla. It worked too.
Primarily, NO ONE on the planet has the MECHANISM for the generation of both AC and DC in wires. You will find it here at my 'bench' and at joecellwaterscience.com.
The mechanism includes the Force Lines of Magnets acting upon Iron Crystals in Field Cores and Elemental Vibrations interacting as Sympathetic Vibrations to Generate Direct Pressure. ( spinning magnets Force Lines next to another lump of iron 'excites' the Crystals inducing Pressure and a battery is 2 Differing elemental vibrations in close proximity that induces "electrolysis' or oxidation and this is the 'source' of Battery Vibrational DC.)
from svpwiki "From Tom Bearden:
This is the background of how the present electrical engineering model (and practice) was severely curtailed to exclude COP>1.0 electrical power systems taking their excess EM energy directly from their interaction with the active medium (the active vacuum or spacetime).
The KEY words here are "electrical power systems taking their excess EM energy directly from their interaction with the active medium (the active vacuum or spacetime). " This is the Aether Energy Grid, 5th Element or Quintessence. Described as the God Force by some, its Form and manifestation, Tesla actually Hid as a Mechanical Contraption to keep this a secret. Tesla, Joe and I all agree humans cant handle God Science in a satanic Usury Age undergoing a revolutionary reset.
Tesla's Multi Phased Motors can be Aetheric Over Unity Generators or just plain 'generators'. Plain generators can also be over unity and this has been accomplished by many a DEAD inventor. The easiest configuration is to use the human body as a 'template' and add a battery (Brain) in the Circuitry. Its a simple step to then make Aetheric energy by using 2 or more rotating magnetic Fields like Keely stated. Pond doesnt understand Keely or Tesla.
We found another motor the other day that slipped through the cracks that can be made into an Aetheric Generator. The Miele 'round' washing machine motor. It looks like any single phase washing machine motor.
Yes, Tesla utilized rotating magnetic Fields to generate EM energy. We all do. its how most everything electrical is powered. We call this using the 4 Elemental States of Matter and their sympathetic Vibratory interaction to generate 'electrical pressure'. These can be over unity if one understand the Physics of Electricity as Tesla thought of it.
The ACTIVE Medium or loosely called Vacuum energy or ZPE, is utilizing the 5th Elemental State to generate 'NON Hertzian electrical pressure''. HUGE Difference to using the other 4 Elemental States of matter to Generate Pressure.
The 2 Methodologies are as different as chalk and cheese. One utilizes South Pole Positive Forces the other, North Pole Negative Non Hertzian Aetheric energy. NO ONE since Tesla (besides Joe and his Cells) have any devices or inventions to show this difference. Tesla stated in words to the effect, that every object in the universe has a natural rotating magnetic Field about its object.
YET... SVPwiki Quotes Keely
No magnetism exists in iron; but ether, in a certain state of vibration which we call magnetic, acts through the instrumentality of the iron.
Everything is Magnetic. Iron is MORE magnetic and its Field can be INCREASED by Charging Up with a car battery. Iron is made in a high pH environment (inside bones) by Biological organics. Iron was not part of the big bang compost heap. Life Force Energies ALTER MATTER.
Even Keely was wrong. Only TESLA was 100% Right.
This Keely Based SVPwiki thesis is at odds with Tesla Science where Everything has the Toroidal Rotating Magnetic Field and thus is Magnetic with 2 obvious Poles. You will end up confused if you consider Keely based SVP to be 100% correct.
SVPwiki of JoeCells https://www.svpwiki.com/Joe+Cell?highlig...%20cell%22
This is PURE GARBAGE. Taken from a manual that guaranteed failure to all those who followed it.
If Dale Pond looked into JoeCells he would have to we-write most of his 14,000 pages.
The JoeCells, and there are dozens of Designs (inventions) all using Tesla's Rotating Magnetic Field Principle and Joe Charges Up this Water Field with battery DC. Joe uses Tesla Science not svpwiki Keely theories. Joe makes RMF's of the Water Crystals as a Unified (RM) Field encompassing the entire container of water as a New Field Effect. Alex rejected these Figure 8's or Infinity Loops that Joe described to him dozens of times, and instead went with Fake and Gay orgone. A JoeCell is a Multi Rotating Magnetic Field effect. Both Keely and Tesla said words to the effect two or more Rotating Magnetic Fields will create this Active Medium energy.
SVPwiki says Bearden has a Patent on " METHOD, SYSTEM AND APPARATUS FOR CONDITIONING ELECTROMAGNETIC POTENTIALS, FIELDS, AND WAVES TO TREAT AND ALTER MATTER"
We not only Treat and alter matter, we do it to make ANY element of the periodic table like carbon or Oil from Water
https://rumble.com/vhodfb-full-unedited-...ater..html
AND my humble Panacea, the aquachifootbath, restructures water into Iron Oxides that will not dissolve back into the water. Literally unheard of and impossible say the eggheads to not be able to dissolve a 'precipitate' back into water. It ALTERS MATTER in a way scientists do not understand. With the RIGHT transformer, my humble Panacea will also make 'white paraffin oil' from water. Joe and I dont believe in Patents.
Dale doesnt understand the Vibratory origin and the very Nature of electricity and neither does Bearden yet they think they can do a Thesis on same.
At overunityresearch, posters were SURE that NON Hertzian Energy as Tesla described Aetheric Energy from the Grid, was a Hertzian Longitudinal Wave. They still probably have this Dissociative Cognizance disorder. They just cant get their mind around this God Force from the Universal Energy Grid upon which (the 4 Elemental states of ) ALL Matter (being magnetic and thus 'electrical') NEED a Grid Circuit to MOVE, REST or Exist upon.
Heaven is an Aetheric Energy Grid. The God Force emanates from Heaven. And LITERALLY, to Manifest this God Force in ANY device, be it a Water Cell or a Smart Drive poly phase motor, requires a BELIEF or FAITH that Heaven will provide it if you have multiple Unified RMF's in our inventive creations in a Mental Universe.
There is NO difference between Electricity and Magnetism. We call it electricity because we see it MISCONCEIVED as a 'flow'.
Electricity has 2 Components.
Magnetism has 2 Components.
Both 'manifest' (man created) as Vibrations.
The two terms Electricity and Magnetism conform to Walter Russells Science of only 2 Forces in the Universe. Compression and Expansion.
Positive and negative and North and South poles. The Push Pull forces interact at 90 degrees to each other and this is the MECHANISM FOR ALL ROTATION. We see this Push Pull WAVE Force around a Magnet in the iron filings 'Lines' and 'No Filings' between the Lines.
Joe and I prefer North Pole Negative energy and South Pole Positive energy. Nothing is 'electro-magnetic'. Everything is either electric or its magnetic depending upon who is describing their inventions. Nothing like confusing the Minds of the Beholden in electromagnetism speak.
An 'electric force' IS a 'magnetic force'.
JP Morgan messed up many minds with his Word Spells.
I hope this answers some of your question. I'm starting to think that Tom Bearden made it up I wasn't asking about Tesla even though the article mentioned him, I asked whether or not anyone on this forum has a source that backs up Thomas Beardens claim that J.P Morgan's scientific tasked H.A Lorent to symmetrize the Maxwell-Heaviside equations so that they wouldn't contain any asymmetric (overunity) systems or the other claim made by bearden where he said that sir John Ambrose Flemming who was a scientific advisor to the Edison electric lighting company was asked about if Maxwells or Oliver heavisides interpretation of Maxwells theory still contained any asymetric EM systems.
I tried to read what you wrote but it seems you were just ranting and then went on a massive tangent, if you have anything interesting to back these specific claims made by Thomas Bearden up with sources I'd very interested.
(10-19-2025, 12:05 PM)Dexter2025 Wrote: Maxwell never solves the main field equation is the Laplace equation show a voltage wave without magnetic component have the same propieties of the not hertzian waves discovered by Nikola Tesla
Richard Feynman proof in his books any electrical field is in overunity by means of his close integral
Can you please provide an exact reference with page numbers showing from which book you took these screenshots from because I'd like to read it for myself.
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iirc Morgan pulled the plug from Tesla's research because they didn't know how to meter the energy sent from the water turbines to buildings through the earth, and not because of violations of conservation of energy.
When someone writes their theories in common language "so that anyone can understand it" and it bears no fruit except for information overload and confusion, then they probably don't know and understand the science. (Don Smith, Bearden, Floyd Sweet who verbatim copied from other works)
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(10-17-2025, 07:03 AM)J.P Morgan Wrote: Hello everyone I'm here because I'd like to know if someone on this forum can help me with a fringe science claim.
I don't think anyone likely has the ability to find what would amount to a bribe to defraud science.
That doesn't mean it's not true, also even if not true, it's still true! As there isn't symmetry!
But more to the point, the medium can be moved by electromagnetic and material means!
Sudden acceleration of a grinder will throw off the light from a laser!
The aether can be affected by matter, and electrical discharges due to their violence are one way to do this.
The energy that emits can then be conditioned by passing through a hole in a metal disc which is appropriately charged.
You can see my thread of Testatika.
Also Oscar Korschelt's device, or various other like the impulse devices from Morton and Pokletnov where energy flies through holes in a plate or Torus respectively.
Tesla also, he had coils wound on wooden frames with more air than anything else, that also creates the same effect.
Look into the work of Bob Greenyer and the Martin Fleishman Memorial Foundation.
Light can cut steel, it can also affect the aether, so even a "machine" made of light burning a circuit into the aether can manifest energies some can feel!
Put your hand in front of the screen, ideally your right hand and make a stop gesture moving it closer and further from the screen, with some tension in your hand.
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After some seconds to a minute or 2 you might feel something, warmth, cool, tingle, pressure, electric, vibration... (varies by the person, the design and the environment)
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(11-20-2025, 10:48 PM)Vortex Wrote: Sudden acceleration of a grinder will throw off the light from a laser!
The aether can be affected by matter, and electrical discharges due to their violence are one way to do this.
The energy that emits can then be conditioned by passing through a hole in a metal disc which is appropriately charged.
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Put your hand in front of the screen, ideally your right hand and make a stop gesture moving it closer and further from the screen, with some tension in your hand.
After some seconds to a minute or 2 you might feel something, warmth, cool, tingle, pressure, electric, vibration... (varies by the person, the design and the environment)
Wow! I was not aware that spinning a grinder can affect the beam of a laser!
Do you have any images or videos depicting this or know of anyone else who has experienced this?
When time permits, can you overview an experimental setup where I can reproduce the effects of a grinder altering the output of a laser?
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Being a highly sensitive individual I am dumbfounded as to why I feel nothing out of the ordinary when I make a stop sign with my right hand with palm towards the screen, cover the image from my view, move my hand back and forth, remain mentally open and receptive to any external energies present, but ultimately feel nothing...Do you have any suggestions?
Is anyone here besides user Vortex able to feel energy radiating from the image above?
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(11-21-2025, 11:22 AM)ovun987 Wrote: (11-20-2025, 10:48 PM)Vortex Wrote: Sudden acceleration of a grinder will throw off the light from a laser!
The aether can be affected by matter, and electrical discharges due to their violence are one way to do this.
The energy that emits can then be conditioned by passing through a hole in a metal disc which is appropriately charged.
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Put your hand in front of the screen, ideally your right hand and make a stop gesture moving it closer and further from the screen, with some tension in your hand.
After some seconds to a minute or 2 you might feel something, warmth, cool, tingle, pressure, electric, vibration... (varies by the person, the design and the environment)
Wow! I was not aware that spinning a grinder can affect the beam of a laser!
Do you have any images or videos depicting this or know of anyone else who has experienced this?
When time permits, can you overview an experimental setup where I can reproduce the effects of a grinder altering the output of a laser?
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Being a highly sensitive individual I am dumbfounded as to why I feel nothing out of the ordinary when I make a stop sign with my right hand with palm towards the screen, cover the image from my view, move my hand back and forth, remain mentally open and receptive to any external energies present, but ultimately feel nothing...Do you have any suggestions?
Is anyone here besides user Vortex able to feel energy radiating from the image above?
Yes, there was a guy but he's been kicked since, his name was Plant something. (edit, ElectroPlantLtd)
I forget, now his name is scrubbed.
I don't know why you can't, and this is worth trying to work out.
Now the main idea I have is that you simply aren't attuned to energies manifested from light.
See, my first coils were Copper wire, and powered with a signal gen, and that created a specific density and feel
But when I stopped energizing the coils and just made them asymmetric, the energy felt different.
And when I changed to steel wire, the energy felt different.
And then I then tried wool and fishing line for the coils, I felt the energy, yes, but it was different.
And then I tried images, and again the energy was different.
And then different colours, again different feeling energy.
So you might be sensitive to energies, but you might have no sensitivity to this range, but the energy does build up over time.
For instance, there is this design...
This, not precisely this version, it might not have had the word Chi in there, and it had the thick blue semicircle around the red coil was a bit shorter.
And it was sitting on the couch near me (I had printed it up) just with my feet up, over some time, maybe a few days the energy from the red coil was radiating through a gap in the thick blue line I mentioned, this was as it turns out containing a stream of energy.
The energy that leaked built up in my leg and felt like I had received a burn for a week or so!
So the energy just times time to build up, every change of energy there is less reaction to.
The other side of it is that each type of energy breeds more energy of that type/range.
And so the design might be working very weakly where you are initially.
My suggestion is to try longer and different variations.
I can also point to a forum where others have reported feeling energy from various designs of mine if you like..
https://www.reddit.com/r/Aetheric_Engineering/
There my name is aether22 and if you search for "poll" you will find a number of posts where people have answered.
Also you can read comments, some feel it and some don't.
Most, sensitive people feel the energy, but I do recall one sensitive person who wasn't able to.
Then again I've had a number of stone cold skeptics feel the energy.
I am of the opinion that given enough time everyone will.
But my only other theory is that some people might be so energetically conductive to the energy it might move through them with no effect or accumulation, but I doubt it. it's more likely that would only be some range of energy that would do that.
Here is a single image with a crap load of designs you can separate (they aren't as great all crowded).
Maybe you will feel some?
And, another...
And another
a single image..
You can also try a different type, here is an easy one.
Take 2 strips of paper, tape then together at one end so they are over the top of each other.
Then twist each one 180 degrees but in opposite directions and more tape.
So you then optionally secure the 2 ends together 2 form a loop of 2 Mobius strips of opposite chirality (opposing twists)
Actually it works even if you don't fold it into a loop!
Or here is one another person also discovered (I think, maybe they just copied me and didn't give credit), take a Pyramid and cut it into 4 pieces cutting down along the edges like you are cutting a cake. Now you have 4 Tetrahedrons. Pull them apart, the energy becomes a lot stronger the further you pull then apart within reason.
Now for more energy, put the number 24 in the middle (edged of pyramid 8 x 3).
Or, if you have a Pyramid made of 8 pieces of dowel, add 2 extra length to the sides. Now each vertex has an even number and the energy will build up higher.
Or you can try coils, I can give you many designs to try.
(11-21-2025, 11:22 AM)ovun987 Wrote: (11-20-2025, 10:48 PM)Vortex Wrote: Sudden acceleration of a grinder will throw off the light from a laser!
The aether can be affected by matter, and electrical discharges due to their violence are one way to do this.
The energy that emits can then be conditioned by passing through a hole in a metal disc which is appropriately charged.
------
Put your hand in front of the screen, ideally your right hand and make a stop gesture moving it closer and further from the screen, with some tension in your hand.
After some seconds to a minute or 2 you might feel something, warmth, cool, tingle, pressure, electric, vibration... (varies by the person, the design and the environment)
Wow! I was not aware that spinning a grinder can affect the beam of a laser!
Do you have any images or videos depicting this or know of anyone else who has experienced this?
When time permits, can you overview an experimental setup where I can reproduce the effects of a grinder altering the output of a laser?
The video about it is here: um, actually I can't find it!
It was here https://www.youtube.com/@MFMP/videos
And in more recent videos, like I think the Project Time video, grinders and laser beams are talked about and bob shows off the Grinder he bought, but the other video I can't find!
Assuming he didn't cut that part out of the video, it was in the live stream.
Basically a Russian experimenter, credentialled, setup an experiment with a variable speed grinder.
And there was a vacuum pulled to reduce effects of the air (but I wasn't totally clear on how that was setup).
And so the experiment was that the grinder was at a low speed, then very suddenly the grinder was spread up.
While this acceleration was happening the laser beam was bent.
I am not sure why I can't find it, the presentation was in Russian and then Bob Greenyer spent a lot of eleven labs credits getting a translation of the Russian done, not perfect but far better than some others where he didn't do that.
I'm curious as to why I can't find it, maybe I suck at looking, maybe there was some reason to pull it?
(11-21-2025, 11:22 AM)ovun987 Wrote: (11-20-2025, 10:48 PM)Vortex Wrote: Sudden acceleration of a grinder will throw off the light from a laser!
The aether can be affected by matter, and electrical discharges due to their violence are one way to do this.
The energy that emits can then be conditioned by passing through a hole in a metal disc which is appropriately charged.
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Put your hand in front of the screen, ideally your right hand and make a stop gesture moving it closer and further from the screen, with some tension in your hand.
After some seconds to a minute or 2 you might feel something, warmth, cool, tingle, pressure, electric, vibration... (varies by the person, the design and the environment)
Wow! I was not aware that spinning a grinder can affect the beam of a laser!
Do you have any images or videos depicting this or know of anyone else who has experienced this?
When time permits, can you overview an experimental setup where I can reproduce the effects of a grinder altering the output of a laser?
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Being a highly sensitive individual I am dumbfounded as to why I feel nothing out of the ordinary when I make a stop sign with my right hand with palm towards the screen, cover the image from my view, move my hand back and forth, remain mentally open and receptive to any external energies present, but ultimately feel nothing...Do you have any suggestions?
Is anyone here besides user Vortex able to feel energy radiating from the image above?
Think I found it, it does seem to mention it.
Still looks different, less of the guy on the video than I recall might have been edited heavily.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw7VPnVxT9g
hmmm, I seem to be unable to edit so I can't add this, well the experimenter is Vladimir Chisov.
Why can I no longer edit??
Test ignore.
Ah, I can just type more and it shows up as an addition, not how it was working earlier. Not as a separate post.
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