About the open source mission statement

[Jim Mac]

Maybe the last post of this thread.  To demonstrate what WILL NOT happen here..

There is a private group at OUR that is by invite only.  Tinman's motor specifics are being discussed. And chances are you are not part of it.  Although some members here may be. 

I was invited into this group which supposed to be open source. 

Once I posted this open source mission statement, I am now removed from the group of good old boys. 

Apparently being open source and not-for-profit will get you kicked out......

This is the exact type of behavior that will not happen within this forum.   

This is a perfect example of what I spoke of earlier in this thread. Private groups quickly turn into the good old boys systems, where if you don't have a star on your belly, you are out of luck. 

If this is the price to be an insider, consider me an outsider.

[Chet K]

Jim Mac
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Apparently being open source and not-for-profit will get you kicked out.
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Regarding Various private areas in forums
Some forums are in countries that have stricter Nanny state governments
I have found the countries with the busiest government interruptions
Are UK and previous satellites ( Canada and Australia)

Plans were made (in ambitious open source groups) to circumvent these interruptions.

Plans to hold off releasing until 20 or more Replications were in place globally prior to public release
This is a format of many groups…( quite ambitious)

They require no anonymity ( for membership ) and a willingness to stick to the plan ( no public release until group has all in place) to prevent suppression ( been a victim of myself “been-there done that”but not as  aggressive as what Brad experienced.(

Most members are incredibly selfless individuals who have dedicated their lives to this .
And most understand the patent trap is a big no no
Example: turning in a patent application for an “over unity” device
Is like handing a man a stick to beat you with..

It’s why we started establishing relationships with Angel Donors ( Decade or more ago)

Yes we need to make plans for when a claim is actually replicated and passes bench rigor ( measurement error etc)

We need to keep together as a community ( like minded open source persons ( not patent trap investors “ “gimme money” guys)
And insure these techs ( once found) get out to the world!

As of this moment there are no successful replications I am aware of!
Rest assured there is a reason I bump a list of open source forums with builder’s

Those are some of the places which will get this out to the world!
The more the merrier…

It is said
“If you want to change the world - Be that change “

Respectfully 
Chet K
PS
Jim please remove if too —-/?
IMO we need each other and all the help we can get

[Jim Mac]

There is so much more to this story that I do not have the liberty to speak about.  I will uphold my word and keep that which I agreed to private, but I will NEVER put myself in this kind of situation again.

I want no part of these "groups".  I want no part of these "secret societies".  

I share OPENLY..  You know this..  Don't invite me to "Secret Groups"  that claim to be "Open Source"-  BUT I must keep my mouth shut till the builder collects his profit.

You say ;

"We need to keep together as a community ( like minded open source persons ( not patent trap investors “ “gimme money” guys)" 

Allow me to amend that sentence to reflect the truth more accurately:

"We need to keep The Private Groups together that only a selected few are privy to see-  and agree to suppress the breakthroughs till profit is established".

Because that is exactly what is happening..  Twist it as you wish. But you know this is true.

I don't stand behind this.  Those who do can maybe get on the waiting list to join the drama club.  I'm Out.

Now back to building!  I got work to do..

[floor]

O.U.R. forum
Is not open source and never has been.
Although they have given an appearance as being such.
It is secret behind the scenery.
Except that its open to big brother.
Unless of course they are so very adept at computer security,
that they can even keep big brother out.

By the way... NO BODY can keep big brother out if he wants in.
THEY KNOW THIS !


But
From their point of view, its our forum, not theirs ?
From their point of view, it's us and them ?
Who are us? We are the ones qualified to decide who gets free
energy and who does not ?

If they cannot keep big brother out of the free energy knowledge, then who
can and are they keeping out ?
ALSO ...
Big brother already has free energy.
... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
Old Cheech and Chong album...
-Nazi
"We are killing zee girl tonight old man...
But you can save her.
Just sign zee papers."
Sounds of slapping
-Old man sobbing
"I cannot sign the papers"
More sounds of slapping
-Nazi ... demanding
! And why cannot you sign zee papers ! ?
-Old man sobbing
I cannot sign the papers, because you have broken both of my hands.
Sobbing
Note:
The Nazi would kill her either way and the old man as well, or worse.
... ... ... ... ... ... ...
Another scenario...
-Nazi
Your killing your daughter if you don't give us the formula!
Father-
No I am not and I wont be the one who does, neither I cant stop you
from doing so. If you murder her it will be because you wanted to murder her.

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Jim Mac
Quote
Apparently being open source and not-for-profit will get you kicked out.
End quote

Regarding Various private areas in forums
Some forums are in countries that have stricter Nanny state governments
I have found the countries with the busiest government interruptions
Are UK and previous satellites ( Canada and Australia)

Plans were made (in ambitious open source groups) to circumvent these interruptions.

Plans to hold off releasing until 20 or more Replications were in place globally prior to public release
This is a format of many groups…( quite ambitious)

They require no anonymity ( for membership ) and a willingness to stick to the plan ( no public release until group has all in place) to prevent suppression ( been a victim of myself “been-there done that”but not as  aggressive as what Brad experienced.(

Most members are incredibly selfless individuals who have dedicated their lives to this .
And most understand the patent trap is a big no no
Example: turning in a patent application for an “over unity” device
Is like handing a man a stick to beat you with..

It’s why we started establishing relationships with Angel Donors ( Decade or more ago)

Yes we need to make plans for when a claim is actually replicated and passes bench rigor ( measurement error etc)

We need to keep together as a community ( like minded open source persons ( not patent trap investors “ “gimme money” guys)
And insure these techs ( once found) get out to the world!

As of this moment there are no successful replications I am aware of!
Rest assured there is a reason I bump a list of open source forums with builder’s

Those are some of the places which will get this out to the world!
The more the merrier…

It is said
“If you want to change the world - Be that change “

Respectfully 
Chet K
PS
Jim please remove if too —-/?
IMO we need each other and all the help we can get

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"As of this moment there are no successful replications I am aware of! "
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Laughing out loud.

[ovun987]

Respect, Jim. 

You have my full respect. I appreciate you sticking by your mission statement and being a solid good dude. Stay strong.  

All the best!

[MagnaProp]

My thoughts on all of this are that, I believe big corp would like nothing more than for free energy seekers to be infighting. As such I respect the decision of all parties to do as they see best with their tech and forums. We may not always agree on the path chosen but I think we are all trying to head towards the same direction.

[floor]

I think back to that great man Tesla, who gave us so many wonderful things.
He died alone and broke in a hotel room--so much for the world treating him as he treated the world.

I hear so many times--just give to the world freely, and the world will look after you
Once again, didn't seem to work for Tesla.

Is it so wrong for some one who has spent years, and countless dollars of his own, to ask for just enough so as he could keep on doing what everyone wants from him--his planets saving tech. Nothing would p*^s me off more than some well funded company or entity, who would ask that you just give it all away, and then in the very next sentence say- but we will give you nothing in return. Let us come check out your tech, and once we have seen it work, and know exactly how it works, we'll get back to you.
Reminds me of the red cross saga in my country Australia--just give us your donations, and we'll make sure the needy get it. Sure.

Anyway, i will take my leave, as it seems i am not of much use here.
I wish you all the best in all that you do.


Tesla--gave so much--died broke and alone in a hotel room.


Brad (AKA-TinMan)

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"Tesla--gave so much--died broke and alone in a hotel room. "
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I am quite certain that every one that ever lived (except for the still yet living) died.

Further more, every last one, ALL OF THEM, died broke and alone.

Yet this is the repeated, sad warning, we hear emphasized of one N. Tesla.
So taaaake heeeeed.