No CEMF Transformer

[Jim Mac]

I did a simple experiment in the past with interesting results.  I placed it on the back-burner to try a better build at a later date.  So now is the time.

The Simple Build:

Take a ferrite core and start by wrapping an output coil around 1 leg.  This coil has a closed magnetic path through the core.  

Then with a heavier gauge wire, wrap a primary coil around the entire square core (going around the whole thing).  The primary has No Completed Magnetic Path.

   

Now when I power it up, the secondary coil will be induced obviously, and the secondary's magnetic field will stay within the completed core path.  But due to the fact that the primary is wrapped around both legs of the core, the CEMF from the secondary will cut the lines of flux of the primary BOTH WAYS as it completes it's path. So 1/2 the time it draws energy and the other half of the time it returns the energy.

The Goal:

I want the secondary's CEMF to cancel out, basically turning the primary to "Non-Reactive".  Which I "HOPE" will result in increase of outpower with greater frequency.

The Expansion:

I am actually building it with 2 secondary's. But will first test with only 1.   I also hope 2 secondary's will feed their CEMF to each other through the connected path, thus increasing the output of both, without passing anything to the primary.

Disclaimer:

I do not declare it will work like I envision. But my previous tests implied that the CEMF did not raise the input. But the setup was a little different and not optimized like this.  So we will see in a day or two when I report back on this

[ovun987]

This guy's builds might be pertinent to your interests: https://rumble.com/user/ANU192

[Jim Mac]

This guy's builds might be pertinent to your interests: https://rumble.com/user/ANU192

Yea, I know of that dudes youtube channel.  One member here actually purchased a device from him and got miss-information and I think it turned out to be a dud. Worth keeping an eye on tho.

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CHECK IT OUT..  

Here is a reverse test (not built right).  You can see exactly what I am after..  



Remember, this is REVERSE,  powering the inside.  But you can see the CEMF Reaction already changing in our favor!  Now to see if this can be built right for real output and if it can be scalable.

[Escumo]

Las compilaciones de este tipo pueden ser pertinentes para sus intereses: https://rumble.com/user/ANU192

Sí, conozco el canal de YouTube de ese tipo. Un miembro aquí realmente le compró un dispositivo y recibió información errónea y creo que resultó ser un fracaso. Aunque vale la pena echarle un ojo.

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COMPRUEBELO...  

Aquí hay una prueba inversa (no construida correctamente). Puedes ver exactamente lo que busco...  



Recuerde, esto es REVERSO, impulsando el interior. ¡Pero se puede ver que la reacción del CEMF ya está cambiando a nuestro favor! Ahora, para ver si esto se puede construir correctamente para obtener resultados reales y si puede ser escalable.

muy interesante será qué la ley de Lenz no se verifica en esa construcción confirmando que está supeditada a la configuración de los elementos usados para realizar inducción electromagnética, Faraday mostró una forma donde la ley de Lenz se verifica en todo su esplendor pero, hay otras posibles configuraciones, como la mostrada en este vídeo, donde se ve, de forma clara, que la ley de Lenz no actúa de la misma forma, es decir de ser - pasa a ser + muy importante.
 !! gracias por compartir!!!

[Jim Mac]

muy interesante será qué la ley de Lenz no se verifica en esa construcción confirmando que está supeditada a la configuración de los elementos usados para realizar inducción electromagnética, Faraday mostró una forma donde la ley de Lenz se verifica en todo su esplendor pero, hay otras posibles configuraciones, como la mostrada en este vídeo, donde se ve, de forma clara, que la ley de Lenz no actúa de la misma forma, es decir de ser - pasa a ser + muy importante.
 !! gracias por compartir!!!

Good day,

I believe Lenz Law will always occur but as you rightfully pointed out, it does not always have to affect the primary. There are ways to manipulate, bypass, or even change the way the CEMF will affect the primary coil.

My weekend starts later tonight, so I will be getting more information and data on this setup soon

[Uniongarage]

Is this similar to The Frolov Transformer?

[Jim Mac]

Is this similar to The Frolov Transformer?

Maybe in some ways, but his main idea is to provide the secondary 2 paths. Where I am only providing the secondary 1 path but forcing it's CEMF to travel both ways cutting the flux of the primary coil.

Here is a scope shot of the input AC compared to the Output.  It's very interesting.

   

But keep in mind, this test was a small model made very inefficiently. And I am powering the inside coil..

I will be trying several configurations and report back with any developments

[Legioneering]

I did a simple experiment in the past with interesting results.  I placed it on the back-burner to try a better build at a later date.  So now is the time.

The Simple Build:

Take a ferrite core and start by wrapping an output coil around 1 leg.  This coil has a closed magnetic path through the core.  

Then with a heavier gauge wire, wrap a primary coil around the entire square core (going around the whole thing).  The primary has No Completed Magnetic Path.



Now when I power it up, the secondary coil will be induced obviously, and the secondary's magnetic field will stay within the completed core path.  But due to the fact that the primary is wrapped around both legs of the core, the CEMF from the secondary will cut the lines of flux of the primary BOTH WAYS as it completes it's path. So 1/2 the time it draws energy and the other half of the time it returns the energy.

The Goal:

I want the secondary's CEMF to cancel out, basically turning the primary to "Non-Reactive".  Which I "HOPE" will result in increase of outpower with greater frequency.

The Expansion:

I am actually building it with 2 secondary's. But will first test with only 1.   I also hope 2 secondary's will feed their CEMF to each other through the connected path, thus increasing the output of both, without passing anything to the primary.

Disclaimer:

I do not declare it will work like I envision. But my previous tests implied that the CEMF did not raise the input. But the setup was a little different and not optimized like this.  So we will see in a day or two when I report back on this

Counter Electro Magnetic Force Comprehension:

I'm old-school and comprehend EMF & CEMF as EMP & CEMP signals. I believe you will discover that the total Watts actually remains the same in that configuration. Shorting simply creates capacitance increasing the available Amps.

Imagining Your Goal:

In my world of creating various electric motors CEMP facilitates as simply the timing governor.

Jim, you've sparked a rethink...

Perhaps there may be an efficiency noted by employing an asymmetrical configuration trifilar with just enough CEMP to trigger the semiconductor. The resulting CEMP on the mirror response might appear Non-Reactive.

Looking Foward:

This may prove to be a great potential benefit for manifesting opposing pressurized accumulator electron tanks. I saved your youtube channel for my review. Thank you for sharing!    

[Jim Mac]

Hi Legioneering, 

Welcome and I hope if you find anything out you will also share.

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Todays initial update-

Remember all- the test posted yesterday is backwards and not what I am focused on. When we put AC to the inside coil, the core and coil become a "Choke".  And we are trying to induce a secondary with a choke, which the very design limits the current.  The dynamics are extremely different when we power the outside coil.

So I used the same rig and placed a resistor in series with the input, just like the original image. The inside coil became the output as designed.  When powered like this, we get a usual sinewave mixed with all sorts of Ringing.  

When I short the inside secondary, the input does not raise or lower. Which is great.

The initial problem though, is the secondary output is very small.  So I will continue and proceed to wrap new coils to see how much I can tap this for.  I also need to experiment with different frequencies.  See if there is anything here worth chasing

[Jim Mac]

Sweet Results to share..

Preliminary tests show without a doubt that 2 secondary's exchange CEMF and raise BOTH Outputs...  As I predicted in:

The Expansion:

I am actually building it with 2 secondary's. But will first test with only 1.   I also hope 2 secondary's will feed their CEMF to each other through the connected path, thus increasing the output of both, without passing anything to the primary.

So we can obviously see the way the CEMF is working here.  Very good!  



Now you probably saw the input did raise some when I shorted both.  I predict this will change when I wind the primary around both secondary's Forcing that CEMF to cut the flux of the primary both ways.  Maybe I am wrong, but we will see...

Much more to try, but I think it's safe to say we can use an output coil's CEMF to push greater output through a second output coil.