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Mooker's No Lenz Magnet Generator - Jim Mac - 09-12-2023
Using magnets mounted on a cylindrical rotor in a spiral formation, a moving magnetic field is created that travels longitudinally to the cylindrical rotor.
As testimony to this statement, view the video below, taking notice of the side magnets on the linear rails. The moving magnetic field is able to cause the side magnets to move longitudinally in line with the rotor.
Please disregard the commentary in the video, as what I am presenting now was not noticed during filming. The important thing to pay attention to is the moving magnetic field that is created from the rotor, and the direction of force required to create it.
As you can see, the force to turn the rotor is perpendicular to the direction of the moving magnetic field.
If we replace the linear rails on the side with longitudinal coils, induction will occur as if magnets were traveling longitudinally across the coil. But since the motion that causes this effect is 90° different, the lenz force created from the induction should not be able to oppose the physical movement of the rotor.
Both sides of the rotor could be used to create alternating current by making one spiral north, and the other spiral south.
I will try to do some more testing on this in the near future.
RE: Mooker's No Lenz Magnet Generator - Shylo - 09-15-2023
Where's the Figurea thread
RE: Mooker's No Lenz Magnet Generator - Escumo - 09-15-2023
Yes, there is convergence with Figuera, in fact I mentioned this similarity to Jim a few weeks ago (this video was forgotten and the prototype was collecting dust on the shelf) in a private chat, the question is to equate the mechanical functioning of the assembly to the virtual movement What is created in Figuera OK?
Si que hay convergencia con Figuera, de hecho esta similitud se la comenté a Jim hace unas semanas ( este vídeo estaba olvidado y el prototipo cogiendo polvo en la estantería ) por un chat privado, la cuestión es igualar el funcionamiento mecánico del montaje al movimiento virtual que se crea en Figuera OK ?
RE: Mooker's No Lenz Magnet Generator - Jim Mac - 09-15-2023
Shylo,
My thread was too sloppy and presented too many ideas. The Figuera is a very important topic and there is already too much misinformation out there to confuse people. The info must first be verified - then shared in a more organized way. I don't want to be the one to add to the noise with a million wrong thoughts. I have every intention of sharing the design if I do manage to figure it out. But don't worry, I would never delete anyone else's threads.
Escumo-
Hello and yes I agree. Although Lenz force would occur- The direction of actual rotation should NOT be opposed by the induction magnetic field. But the magnet arrays are not correct on my prototype. And I am working on a different project currently. I may build this again correctly to test the theory at a later date.
RE: Mooker's No Lenz Magnet Generator - Jim Mac - 09-19-2023
This one is itching on me, and I can't help but to build it while I contemplate the figuera further.
I reviewed some of my old videos that shows the induction. In this photo, the rotor is passing the coil from top to bottom, in line with the direction of rotation.
Take notice at the frequency. One magnet approaches, then departs, causing a full sine wave. Wave. And two magnets pass per rotation. So we get two sine waves per rotation.
Now take notice at this next photo..
Since the coil is past the 45° mark, closer to 90, we are inducting perpendicular to the direction of rotation of the shaft. Now the coil no longer sees approach and decay, but instead sees a longitudinal magnetic field sweeping across the coil. This type of induction causes one-way current per pass. We have two rows of same polarity magnets. One goes down, then the same polarity goes back up like a reciprocator. This causes one full sine wave per rotation.
And we can see with the scope shots, the frequency is half of what it is when we are approaching and decaying.
Here is a video where I clip these from.
This type of rotor can produce two different types of moving magnetic fields, that we can tap depending on the orientation of the coil.
And it appears to me that if we tap the induction perpendicular to the rotation of the shaft, there should be no drag that influences the rotor shaft.
This one is too tempting not to build. So let the fun begin tonight of designing and improved rotor
RE: Mooker's No Lenz Magnet Generator - Dr.Wlazlak - 09-19-2023
Hi Jim<
It will be interesting so see the outcome of this experiment
I was not able to get any of my similar experiments to develop more than equal
output less friction. using a 1 to 1 energy input format.
This is why I went to using 2 energies for 1 output device.
1 energy is needed to overcome the friction part of the device.
Thanks - Mr. Tom ( same fellow ) but not needed to comment - I guess?
RE: Mooker's No Lenz Magnet Generator - Jim Mac - 09-19-2023
(09-19-2023, 07:48 PM)Dr.Wlazlak Wrote: Hi Jim<
It will be interesting so see the outcome of this experiment
I was not able to get any of my similar experiments to develop more than equal
output less friction. using a 1 to 1 energy input format.
This is why I went to using 2 energies for 1 output device.
1 energy is needed to overcome the friction part of the device.
Thanks - Mr. Tom ( same fellow ) but not needed to comment - I guess?
Wassup Tom!.. Hope you had a good trip.. I was just in the process of uploading this next video when you replied.. It should answer most questions. And I appreciate feedback.
It is my belief just about all generators would be >COP1 if Lenz drag did not subject such monstrous force against us. Some motors can spin 5,000+ RPM's for a few watts. But even a fraction of that efficiency is enough if Lenz were diverted.
Anyway- I want to see if people can poke holes in this idea.. I'd rather see the error of my ways before splurging and buying materials to build.
RE: Mooker's No Lenz Magnet Generator - Shylo - 09-20-2023
Interesting l would like to see you short the coil at just before peak so every quarter rotation.
Sorry maybe every half rotation.
It should spike which you could catch with diodes and a cap.
Also if you sent power through the coil wound it make the rotor spin?
RE: Mooker's No Lenz Magnet Generator - Dr.Wlazlak - 09-20-2023
Hi Jim, Thanks, it was a nice Vacation
As for the device being shown
I thought about it, and what make sense
in a Ac generator system the magnetic field is fixed as N / S
when the coil reaches the top center of the field the current is at its highest point
as it goes across the poles N to S it is at Zero output
as to say:
The device you are showing is producing AC
But is opposite of a normal Ac generator
your system the iron core coil is the fixed field - and the permanent magnet screw is what would be the moving electric coil part of a normal generator system
again opposite -
The ends of the iron core coil are the zero points and the center of the coil is the same as the center of the normal magnetic field of a generator - high output part -
The magnetic screw center is the same as the center of a coil part of a generator
working the same way but somewhat opposite to the normal generating system
This can be tested by putting power on the iron core coil and seeing if the magnetic screw is pulled to one end and pushes away from the other
Everything else is common sense
Thanks Tom
RE: Mooker's No Lenz Magnet Generator - Jim Mac - 09-20-2023
(09-20-2023, 04:06 AM)Dr.Wlazlak Wrote: in a Ac generator system the magnetic field is fixed as N / S
Good morning..
Depending on the AC generator, they can work either way. Axial flux generators use moving magnets. But it can work either way. If you revolve the long coil around the motionless tube, it does the same thing.
(09-20-2023, 04:06 AM)Dr.Wlazlak Wrote: when the coil reaches the top center of the field the current is at its highest point
as it goes across the poles N to S it is at Zero output
the center of the coil is the same as the center of the normal magnetic field of a generator - high output part -
Not really.. Normal generators position the coils so the EMF passes the top, where we have a line of flux to cross. Sideways coils (like this video) do not cross a line of flux. So in a normal generator- when the magnet and coil are aligned top dead center- the output current is Zero. But in this model, since we are passing the side, top dead center is highest