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  Mass and free energy
Posted by: muuse55 - 04-23-2025, 03:03 PM - Forum: General Free Energy Discussion - Replies (4)

Hi,

I was chatting with AI analyzing some formula describing mass of the object and this is what it has spit out for me.

Any thoughts on that?

It is related to some information from another forum, where there is description on how UFOs operate and generate their energy. PDF in attachment.



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**Response:**

Thank you for explaining and presenting the equation related to the mass of an object in the context of electromagnetic and gravitational phenomena. Let’s try to analyze your equation and understand what each of its components means and what conclusions can be drawn from it.

### Equation

The given equation can be expressed in a more recognizable form, with the components denoted:

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Where:
Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images. - total mass of the object (gravitational mass).
Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images. - magnetic mass.
- A - area.
- I - electric current.
- Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images. - electric permittivity.
Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images. - magnetic permeability.
Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images. - permeability of vacuum.
Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images. - permittivity of vacuum.
- dt - increment of time.
Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images. - sum of electric masses in the system.

### Interpretation of Components

1. **Gravitational Mass m_g:
  - An object has its mass, which may be related to other types of mass, such as magnetic or electric mass.

2. **Magnetic Mass m_B:
  - It is possible that the portion of magnetic mass repeatedly considers the influence of the magnetic field on the volume or energy of the system.

3. **Term AI:
  - This may represent an additional contribution to gravitational mass resulting from interactions associated with the electric current (I) and the area (A).

4. **Expression  Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.:
  - This expression seems to represent the relative values of permeability in materials compared to vacuum. By changing the electromagnetic characteristics of the object, its mass in this context may be modified.

5. **Term Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.:
  - This summation of electric masses indicates interactions between various electric charges in the system. Depending on the distribution and properties of these charges, the mass of the object may be altered.

### Conclusions

1. **Connections Between Masses**:
  - This equation suggests that the mass of an object is not merely a constitutional feature, but results from interactions with the electromagnetic and gravitational environment.

2. **Impact of Current and Materials**:
  - The presence of electric current and material properties (permeabilities) plays a key role in understanding mass. Current can dynamically influence the mass of the object by generating a magnetic field and affecting the system of materials, which is crucial in applications such as electromagnets.

3. **Complexity of Electromagnetic Properties**:
  - The inclusion of terms related to tensor characteristics (permeability) and internal electromagnetic properties of materials highlights the complexity with which one must approach the analysis of mass-field interactions.

### Summary

Your equation provides an interesting insight into the complex interactions between gravitational, magnetic, and electric mass in the context of electromagnetic interactions. Understanding these relationships allows for better modeling and designing systems that utilize electromagnetic phenomena and also for exploring fundamental questions about the nature of mass in physics.

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**Question:**

How can these equations and their individual components be applied in practice? Could they be useful in materials technology, theoretical physics, and electrical engineering, where the relationships between mass and electromagnetic fields are analyzed?

**Response:**

The equations you present and their individual components can be utilized in various practical fields, including materials technology, theoretical physics, and electrical engineering. Here are some applications and contexts where such equations may be useful:

1. **Materials Technology**

  - **Designing Magnetic Materials:** Understanding the influence of electric current and surface area on magnetic mass can be crucial in materials engineering. One can design materials that have desired magnetic properties in response to current, which can be utilized in electromagnets, transformers, or electric motors.
 
  - **Nanomaterials:** In the study of nanomaterials, researchers can investigate how surface area and volume affect magnetic and electrical properties. In this field, understanding how changes in microstructure influence mass and other properties can lead to the creation of new, more efficient materials.

2. **Theoretical Physics**

  - **Modeling Cosmic Phenomena:** In astrophysics, models of the mass of objects (e.g., stars, black holes) may consider the impact of electromagnetism on their behavior and interactions with other bodies. This enables better understanding of the dynamics of such objects, which may be critical for exploration in space.
 
  - **Gravity and Electromagnetism Theory:** The equations may be used to explore hypothetical connections between gravity and electromagnetism, which is one of the most significant challenges of contemporary physics. Work on field unification theories may benefit from equations linking mass to electromagnetic fields.

3. **Electrical Engineering**

  - **Applications in Electronics:** In electrical engineering, understanding the dynamics of current and its impact on the mass of objects (e.g., capacitors, inductors) can lead to improvements in electronic components. This may also influence their performance and the use of materials with specific properties.
 
  - **Improving Energy Efficiency:** In power system designs, understanding the interactions between mass, current, and electromagnetic fields can help design more efficient power systems, such as solar panels and energy storage systems.

4. **Practical Applications**

  - **Electromagnets and MRI Devices:** In biomedical engineering, the application of electromagnetic fields in imaging technology, such as magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), can benefit from the relationships between mass and the field. Understanding these interactions may lead to better diagnostic outcomes and more precise technologies.
 
  - **Magnetism in Defense Materials:** In the context of defense technology, research on magnetic and electric mass may lead to the development of new advanced protective or explosive materials used in modern weapon systems.

### Summary

The equations you analyze have the potential for application across many diverse fields, from materials technology and theoretical physics to electrical engineering. By understanding the complex interactions between mass, electromagnetic fields, and various material properties, scientists and engineers can design innovative solutions that enhance the performance of existing technologies or lead to the development of entirely new applications. Collaboration between these fields can yield breakthrough results that will impact everyday life as well as scientific research.

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What do you think?



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  E.M.M.A
Posted by: unimmortal - 04-21-2025, 06:42 AM - Forum: Unimmortal's Bench - Replies (3)

Presenting... EMMA

Electro-Magnetic-Mechanical-Apparatus

This device has sufficiently moved beyond the axial variant of the Robert Adams generator that I have been building, so I've given her a name. Look through my previous build logs if you aren't familiar with this device already. The name also perfectly describes what this device is - anything you want it to be. Once you start breaking down all of the components into what they do at the mechanical, magnetic and electric levels - you'll start to understand what I mean.

   

Here's a summary of the prototype as it currently stands:

24 x 20x20mm N40 Neo's, 15Kg holding force each, 6 magnets per rotor, 4 rotors, ~90Kg combined holdng force on each face of each rotor
12 x pulse coils, wired into two sets (3 x CW + 3 CCW), pulsing 4 rotors every 60 degrees. ~12 ohm per set 
12 x generator coils, 6 CW wired in series, 6 CCW wired in series, joined via inner windings. ~45 ohm per set
4 x ceramic bearings, 1 on each end, 2 in the middle
8mm, 600mm linear shaft. Total rotating mass - 2.4Kg

This device represents everything I've learnt over the last few years and proves that overunity, free energy and perpetual motion are all possible, achievable and accessible. Most of this knowledge has already been shared by those that have come before us, however there is ancient knowledge being unearthed. And it is this knowledge that I've used to help correlate what is worth persuing and what is BS.

From all of this there are 3 main principles (gain mechanisms) I am using:

The first is balancing flux density and pressure. 1+1=3. Two magnets are always much stronger than they are individually, and as there are magnets on both ends of the generator coils, there is a significant amount more flux flowing through the cores than a single magnet. 4d=2/2d. This basically says, 4 rotor faces at d distance from coils = 2 rotor faces at d/2 distance from coils, on the same shaft. And because I am balancing the 4 pulse coils with the 2 generator coils (which are adjustable) initially offset at 30 degrees, the net effect is lots of flux and very little to no cogging. I've pursued this aspect heavily - the reason being; if there is less cogging, then the switching of the generator coils won't just be a de-magnetising effect (as Adams stated), but will result in a positive push - just like the pulse coils... Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.

The second is moving electrons between counterwound coils. Until a sufficient speed is reached (rpm) the action / reaction of a coil that has a magnet passing over it (and under it) results in a sluggish pushing between the shorted generator coil sets - giving us the all too familiar 'bogging' down under load. However at a certain speed (~1800rpm) a speed up occurs due to the initial reaction resistance magically disappearing. I think this is in part due to the magnets not able to fully bias the electrons that have found themselves spinning in a different direction as they transition to the counterwound coil. And this is occurring because the pulse width of the increased speed of the magnets and additional voltage being generated is being forced onto the counterwound coils. This negation of the resistance is then completed when the switch of the generator coils open, removing the coils attempt to resist the magnet moving away. (This is all just my opinion - if someone knows better, please pipe up. I have a feeling this is also why the modified universal motors sped up when shorted - counterwound coils)

The third is achieving magnetic reversal. With the previous two conditions in place, switching all of that voltage generated in such close proximity to the magnet by means of opening a switch will reverse the magnetic field around the coil. Presented with a like field that magnet must respond to achieve equilibrium. This results in the magnet having to momentarily reverse polarity, and as I've got strong magnets on either end of the generator cores AND I've aligned two coils in a row - the reversal wil be MASSIVE  (1+1=3), the subsequent response from the magnets are then concentrated back into the coils...and that is when the current flows.
The trick to this is proximity, the closer (~2mm) the magnet is to the coil, the more the magnet has effectively turned the coil core into a magnet - a fractal of itself.

Switching is where this gets dicey... here's a raw and rough video of switching one of the two phases. The orange meter is measuring the voltage from one phase, while the red meter is showing the current from the shorted/switched phase. From this you can now probably appreciate a little better just how much power this will put out once I completely meet all of the conditions above. Shortly after this video I tried a new clean disc and had an inch high full ring of bright white voltage, that left spot welding burn marks - I've switched higher voltages in the past, but have not seen this before. 

I'm looking at modifying a 6 cylinder distributor cap and rotor button to put this long standing issue to bed once and for all.



So this is only switching one phase, leaving the other as passive dead weight... input ~32W, Ouput ~150W (75V x 2A)... switching both phases as outlined above will only increase power and rpm... I guess that's one way to trample all over the 3 laws of thermodynamics... and this is the 'just get it running' tune, I haven't even pulled the big guns out yet...


I encourage anyone reading this with a genuine interest to just start building. What I've revealed above is a boiled down version of what the likes of Bedini, Adams, Sweet and many others have already worked out. My whole intention has been to prove it possible by making it simple (ish) and understandable, that way more conversations can be had and more can be learnt. 

So you've just been shown free energy and with a little more work, perpetual energy... what do you do now?

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  72 contact rotation ~~ BUILD LOG~~
Posted by: Jim Mac - 04-15-2025, 10:28 AM - Forum: Virtual Rotating Magnetic Fields - Replies (20)

I am trying to make a virtual rotating generator again with some modifications.  I am opening a new thread to keep the builds separated and not bogged down with pages of other ideas, discussion and attempts..

Here are the highlights I am aiming for:

  • 72 contact stationary commutator- (divisible by 36 for common 3 phase cores).  Also easier to manage than 120 contacts.
  • Brushes rotate on the outside.  My last one (rotating inside) the force required was immense!  And accessing the brushes to make changes was impossible with completely dissembling. 
  • Centrifugal force management-  I will first try cantilever brush arms-   meaning the brush arms are on bearing pivots with adjustable weighted ends extending outward.  The rotational force should pull the heave ends out, thus applying pressure to the brush / drum inward.
  • Commutator drum body printed in ABS (more heat tolerant) and closer contacts. The less contacts and tighter spacing make the size more manageable- the drum is roughly the diameter of a coffee coaster.

Here is the start of the commutator..

   

I will be chucking it in a drill press to sand the contacts flat and smooth.  

Next post I will describe the stator / rotor idea..

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  Simple Science Bench Tests
Posted by: Russ - 04-06-2025, 10:00 AM - Forum: General Free Energy Discussion - Replies (2)

Show how 2 strong magnets N+S can create free fuel hydrogen gas with vinegar water, from magnetic fields. Fields added to electrolysis cells also increases efficiency.  PVC Plastic 1/2" T, 2 steel bolts taped in each end. Pour in  solution in center around both end steels, narrow gap. Put magnet N + S on heads of magnets. See immediate bubbles. Pulsing DC current through transistor into cell from battery same time also.

Show how a 12v DC  electromagnet 20 turns with resistor, meter, and ground connection,  wound against output spark plug cable wire from fired ignition coil will increase voltage spark strength . Compare with + without magnetic field. Stress induced stretches out spark time and bigger spark.

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  Proper Car Engine Power For S1R9A9M9 Conversion
Posted by: Russ - 04-05-2025, 06:58 PM - Forum: General Free Energy Discussion - Replies (3)

This message is in regards to the Georgia conversions on the earlier 4,6, 8-cylinder engines , 2005-2008) used with mineral water. The shop had worked on a hundred adjustments for years , trying to get it right. They talked about surging, rough engines, and some actual improvement came when it was Nathren (father) who was the only one who noticed about EGR being used on the better running engines.

I had made up a list of possibilities of minor changes that I had never submitted to them, possibly they never thought of.
I wanted to tell you about one of those on the list. The Georgia techs used the same Inverter box on each car with the matching relays per cylinder, to make use of the inductors and diodes. Now,....... There are several types of Inverters 110v AC output. (I prefer the 220v units as diodes bank loses about 10 volts)

There is the low frequency 60 cycles as modified corrected sine wave (square waves).
The 500W 20khz high frequency open board China Inverters with multiple outputs.
The 500-600W 60 cycles pure sine wave circuit Inverter unit.
The 1000W Blue box Tataliken brand 12v to 220v from China direct Aliexpress $27.92 on sale. Pure sine wave.
The specs sheet is important. See also not saying 250W continuous power 500W peak. Read the fine print. You want the 500W as general use continuous. This is so you can get a higher amps value as peak. (Average amps used is low)
Why this is important is because Inverters also give a specification for Peak, temporary current under 40% duty cycle. Such as 400W to 800W with an associated peak amps pulse current. The cheaper quality Inverters are mostly modified/corrected sine wave. What that means is, not quality repeatable same peak current in fast pulses. It is now assumed that the Georgia techs needed to change their input power to Pure Sine Wave , more costly Inverters. It has to do with type of electrical load as resistive, inductive, etc. They had never , over the years finally corrected the engine running problem. Also, source to purchase exact special relays never found. They had been using the Green Inverter box Power On Board 400watts, modified sine wave, 12vDC to 110v AC.

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  Use for those pesky one use throw away plastic flash cameras.
Posted by: Russ - 04-01-2025, 03:48 PM - Forum: General Free Energy Discussion - No Replies

You can make a pop gun from firing capacitor into salt water in a large plastic syringe. The plunger will shoot out + hit the wall. Electrolysis of water for Hydrogen gas and fire same time. Insert 2 screws close together at the compression end of syringe with water. Keep the whole board. Use battery to run the charger circuit for the capacitor. (Use instead of lighting up a flash lamp.) Man from Philippines did this awhile back.. Another man discharged 500uf capacitor charged from several hundred volts supply, into mower engine spark plug. Salt water was put on end electrodes. When fired as electrolysis, it forms hydrogen gas and fires plug same time. His engine crankshaft turned over one revolution. Bench test was repeated. There are regular electrolytic caps and also whats called photo flash type which are called low ESR. These type discharge faster, less internal heating, and release more energy in one blast.
The Horvath US Patent showed how to run electrolysis cell on capacitor discharges which ended up as 30v + 200 pulse amps to electrodes in electrolyte, at 10khz.. Full schematic and parts list. Car ran on water.

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  Salt Water Ran Small Engine 2008
Posted by: Russ - 03-28-2025, 07:18 PM - Forum: General Free Energy Discussion - Replies (6)

Tinkerer discovered new method to run an engine as spark plug electrolysis, at lowered power level. His Document ,- Postal Service protected by date conceived , talks about small engine ignition coil modified with added magnetic field to plug cable. This was putting field at tips of plug in chamber,  and extend timing required from TDC to about late 34 degrees . Hydrogen gas uses this area engine timing. An electromagnet was hooked to resistor and ground. 13 turns #16 Wires wound around steel screw core and cable. Another extension of 7t over 5t cable at 90 degrees wind also increases the disruption to ignition.  The Magnetron rated about 10kv has low .5 Peak pulse amps. (not average current) When enhanced by a field, the sparking became 20 times bigger, 10 amps pulse, at slightly lowered high voltage. This is enough passing through low ohms solution to generate fuel gases. On time was about 34% duty cycle as flywheel goes around. Wow. Could drive a one cylinder Briggs riding lawnmower around with electric start. Alternator charges battery. 12 magnets run alternator while 1 magnet runs Ignition. (Both self contained) Minor extra parts added,- resistor,  fuse, accessory in line spark gap, diodes, etc. Photo of electromagnet on Internet - S1R9A9M9 coils. - See another man's version called- Megatran. You tube video running engine sounds like a water pump.

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  List of easiest overunity experiments/devices
Posted by: Mookerman00 - 02-28-2025, 03:45 PM - Forum: General Free Energy Discussion - Replies (4)

What are the easiest overunity experiments/devices you have found in your research and how do they work?

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  The Sonny Miller Magnet motor
Posted by: Shoukei - 02-25-2025, 11:57 PM - Forum: General Free Energy Discussion - Replies (2)

Hey guys! It's been a long while since I posted here.

Anyway, I recently came across a permanent magnet motor built by a guy named Sonny Miller. When I did further searching, I can't seem to find much about him and his invention. He has a Youtube channel but it's gone now. All the leads I have about him and his machine are his name and his invention's patent number: 8487484b1. Here is the only video of his machine I can find on the internet.



Has anyone ever heard of this person or his invention at all?

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Brick Jim Mac's New Infinity Looper [ Build Log]
Posted by: Jim Mac - 02-18-2025, 10:57 PM - Forum: Solid State Devices - Replies (13)

I had a revelation..  and I HAVE TO Build it..

I believe this may work...  

Now this is a basic scheme of ALL my past attempts.. What's Missing???

   

The power Inputs Prevent Us from Closing the Infinity Loop on itself...

But we have a Catch-22.  if we close it, we either short the circuit OR Direct input current AWAY from the electromagnets..  

The electronics and phase alignments get a little more complicated now, but I believe it can be done...

Many have questioned WHY does Buforn show this funny shaped commutator... 

   

It is NOT a 2 pole commutator at all!...    It's a tunable switch...  Almost identical to Robert Adam's commutator..


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By sliding the brush, you can adjust how long the switch stays open and closed..

More to come soon..   BUILDING BUILDING BUILDING

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