01-07-2024, 01:26 PM
01-08-2024, 08:06 AM
To make it even easier and match Figuera and Buforn's drawings, the primaries can hook up the same way as shown.
Instead of flipping half the primaries on each row, it is even easier just flipping half the pickup coils direction.
I am pretty sure this arrangement will accomplish the same thing.
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This also raises the question if this arrangement allow for proper usage of 2 polarity 90 degrees waves? Considering now we are inducing both sides of the coil with triplets, thus better mimicking a coil in rotation where both sides contribute to the counter induction.
It all has to be tested
Instead of flipping half the primaries on each row, it is even easier just flipping half the pickup coils direction.
I am pretty sure this arrangement will accomplish the same thing.
[attachment=451]
This also raises the question if this arrangement allow for proper usage of 2 polarity 90 degrees waves? Considering now we are inducing both sides of the coil with triplets, thus better mimicking a coil in rotation where both sides contribute to the counter induction.
It all has to be tested
01-08-2024, 06:21 PM
Figuera diferente con inducción Faraday / Lenz
https://youtu.be/XcaiuOnnG5c?si=JMy7uFdfb2VG_nLG
https://youtu.be/XcaiuOnnG5c?si=JMy7uFdfb2VG_nLG
01-08-2024, 09:15 PM
I don't think that will work
Your post PG 7 #65. ,....
The primaries are in groups of 4
I think each group creates its own circulating field
Group 1 and 2 are growing 3 and 4 hitting peak 5 and 6 just past peak and shrinking 7 and 8 starting over
Your post PG 7 #65. ,....
The primaries are in groups of 4
I think each group creates its own circulating field
Group 1 and 2 are growing 3 and 4 hitting peak 5 and 6 just past peak and shrinking 7 and 8 starting over
01-08-2024, 10:17 PM
(01-08-2024, 09:15 PM)Shylo Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think that will work
Your post PG 7 #65. ,....
The primaries are in groups of 4
I think each group creates its own circulating field
Group 1 and 2 are growing 3 and 4 hitting peak 5 and 6 just past peak and shrinking 7 and 8 starting over
Oh I have it hooked up like that and we absolutely get a sinewave out with decent power. So it definitely works in this configuration. I just switched to to series like in my last pic and it also works fine like that.
When watching a hot lead from the resistor rig compared supply positive, the electromagnet positive feeds peak up to 3X the voltage as the supply positive, Even with output shorted, the peak of the hot leg is still more and 2X the voltage as the supply.
I think I can confirm with certainly that it is definitely acting like a generator's induction. I can pull hundreds of milliamps from the negative supply lead and it flows right into the hot lead through a diode on half the cycle.. and then flows to the other hot leg on the reverse cycle.
So when one lead swings hot, it gets 2-3 times hotter than the supply, and when it shrinks, the supply negative peaks at about 2-3 times hotter than the potential of the hot wire on that cycle. Happening on both sides.
It's definitely doing something that is worthy of a head-scratching. Still trying to figure it all out but I think the gain system is all already there and happening. I don't think I should touch any of those anomalies, but they are the result of it starting to do it's thing. I am thinking I just need to focus on optimization
01-08-2024, 11:56 PM
Hi Jim - quietly watching and it's getting quite exciting to say the least! Some Great Work... SL
01-09-2024, 05:36 AM
Jim comentó:
“ Mire la dinámica de un volante. Un lado va hacia ABAJO mientras el lado opuesto va hacia ARRIBA. La masa que baja ayuda a la masa que sube y viceversa. La energía cinética del movimiento descendente alimenta directamente el movimiento ascendente del otro lado “
Esta forma de contemplar la inducción es completamente diferente a la de Faraday / Lenz y le podemos llamar Figuera / No Lenz, en realidad, la diferencia entre ellas sólo está en la respuesta de la bobina inducida al estar cargada, dicha respuesta, es una transferencia magnética que se opone en el caso de Faraday / Lenz y en la de Figuera / No Lenz, no se opone, lo del famoso signo ( - ) qué pasará a ser ( + )
Es difícil haber imaginado que se podía conseguir y hace unos meses que se sabe, es así, sólo hay que entender la acción de una corriente dentro de un campo magnético como dice Figuera en su patente, “ la reivindicación de esta patente no es por una máquina concreta es por el principio de aplicación de la inducción en la cual no es necesaria la utilización de fuerza “
< Casi nada lo del ojo y lo llevaba en la mano >
Jim commented:
“Look at the dynamics of a steering wheel. One side goes DOWN while the opposite side goes UP. The mass that goes down helps the mass that goes up and vice versa. The kinetic energy of the downward motion directly feeds the upward motion of the other side.”
This way of looking at induction is completely different from that of Faraday / Lenz and we can call it Figuera / No Lenz, in reality, the difference between them is only in the response of the induced coil when charged, said response is a transfer magnetic that is opposed in the case of Faraday / Lenz and in that of Figuera / No Lenz, it is not opposed, the famous sign (-) will become (+)
It is difficult to have imagined that it could be achieved and it has been known for a few months that it is so, you just have to understand the action of a current within a magnetic field as Figuera says in his patent, “the claim of this patent is not for a specific machine is due to the principle of application of induction in which the use of force is not necessary.
<Almost nothing about the eye and I carried it in my hand>
“ Mire la dinámica de un volante. Un lado va hacia ABAJO mientras el lado opuesto va hacia ARRIBA. La masa que baja ayuda a la masa que sube y viceversa. La energía cinética del movimiento descendente alimenta directamente el movimiento ascendente del otro lado “
Esta forma de contemplar la inducción es completamente diferente a la de Faraday / Lenz y le podemos llamar Figuera / No Lenz, en realidad, la diferencia entre ellas sólo está en la respuesta de la bobina inducida al estar cargada, dicha respuesta, es una transferencia magnética que se opone en el caso de Faraday / Lenz y en la de Figuera / No Lenz, no se opone, lo del famoso signo ( - ) qué pasará a ser ( + )
Es difícil haber imaginado que se podía conseguir y hace unos meses que se sabe, es así, sólo hay que entender la acción de una corriente dentro de un campo magnético como dice Figuera en su patente, “ la reivindicación de esta patente no es por una máquina concreta es por el principio de aplicación de la inducción en la cual no es necesaria la utilización de fuerza “
< Casi nada lo del ojo y lo llevaba en la mano >
Jim commented:
“Look at the dynamics of a steering wheel. One side goes DOWN while the opposite side goes UP. The mass that goes down helps the mass that goes up and vice versa. The kinetic energy of the downward motion directly feeds the upward motion of the other side.”
This way of looking at induction is completely different from that of Faraday / Lenz and we can call it Figuera / No Lenz, in reality, the difference between them is only in the response of the induced coil when charged, said response is a transfer magnetic that is opposed in the case of Faraday / Lenz and in that of Figuera / No Lenz, it is not opposed, the famous sign (-) will become (+)
It is difficult to have imagined that it could be achieved and it has been known for a few months that it is so, you just have to understand the action of a current within a magnetic field as Figuera says in his patent, “the claim of this patent is not for a specific machine is due to the principle of application of induction in which the use of force is not necessary.
<Almost nothing about the eye and I carried it in my hand>
01-09-2024, 07:54 AM
In case you don't understand what I explained and what it means.
Look at this pic. We need current to start to flow between the negatives of the EL-magnets and skip the ground. One EL-magnet negative feeds current into the other EL-magnet. When shrinking, the ground becomes input so we need it to feed that way.
So I hook up a current meter like this
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No current flows from negative to negative with the pickup coil open..
Now when I short the pickup coil, the current starts to feed negative to negative..
This is taking a portion of the reciprocal and re-using it to feed the other side
Also remember, a resistor rig is in-play. So the amount of current that can flow back in is governed by the resistor rig, as it is a closed circuit.
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This is why it is referred to as an "Input and Output resistor"
" .and further more as the current passes to the magnetic field and returns of the same by the two ends of input and output resistor"
Look at this pic. We need current to start to flow between the negatives of the EL-magnets and skip the ground. One EL-magnet negative feeds current into the other EL-magnet. When shrinking, the ground becomes input so we need it to feed that way.
So I hook up a current meter like this
[attachment=453]
No current flows from negative to negative with the pickup coil open..
Now when I short the pickup coil, the current starts to feed negative to negative..
This is taking a portion of the reciprocal and re-using it to feed the other side
Also remember, a resistor rig is in-play. So the amount of current that can flow back in is governed by the resistor rig, as it is a closed circuit.
[attachment=454]
This is why it is referred to as an "Input and Output resistor"
" .and further more as the current passes to the magnetic field and returns of the same by the two ends of input and output resistor"
01-09-2024, 08:23 AM
Exactly, what you are doing is very clear and that is not how conventional induction works. I showed you a result, the same as what you do, only I did it differently, but the result is the same and consists of the addition of electricity between the members of a triplet N and S by putting load on the induced coil, so that the input intensity from the Source decreased specifically by the same amount extracted, that is, the addition of that current causes the power to be multiplied by 2, the charging light plus the amp drop, I did it with my analog switch and you do it with an arduino and it is very good on your part without noise and more efficient than my system, I sent you some videos, if you still have it Show it, I can't send videos to this forum, it doesn't allow me and I don't have YouTube, in them I show what I say and it's the same phenomenon,
01-09-2024, 10:58 AM
You can start a new telegram group and put the link here. I will try to download videos you post to the new telegram and post them here in your thread