(01-06-2024, 04:58 AM)Classic Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, that is 100% correct ! Whatever you pump on only 1 side will be matched on the other side of gradient by local environment (aether) … magnetic field is action at distance instant. The key to generate power is to make disturbance to 1 side only as much as possible, not both ends of the gradient.
Excellent work, congratulations !
Yes.. We probably have different definitions of the "Aether", but you got the concept...
Look at the dynamics of a Flywheel. One side is going DOWN as the opposite side is going UP. The mass that is going down is helping the mass that is going up and vice versa. The kinetic energy of the downward motion feeds directly into the going up motion of the other side.
Now create this same dynamic without any motion at all within a circuit.. Now when we induct and withdraw power, an equal magnetic field is created in the output coil as the amount of power that we harvested. Now instead of letting that resultant magnetic field work against us (as all conventional understanding teach us), that resultant magnetic field can be used to inject an equal amount of power that we withdrew into the opposite side that is calling for that energy.
Yes, the question is to synchronize the two movements, both in duration and intensity, that is, there are two coils (electromagnets N and S) while in one it is charged, at the same time, it is discharged in the opposite, this action must be completely synchronized, in addition to calculated based on the parameters of said coils
https://youtube.com/shorts/pDhoKT7XBl4?s...Yt3sRFy_vo
(01-06-2024, 10:42 AM)Jim Mac Wrote: [ -> ] (01-06-2024, 04:58 AM)Classic Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, that is 100% correct ! Whatever you pump on only 1 side will be matched on the other side of gradient by local environment (aether) … magnetic field is action at distance instant. The key to generate power is to make disturbance to 1 side only as much as possible, not both ends of the gradient.
Excellent work, congratulations !
Yes.. We probably have different definitions of the "Aether", but you got the concept...
Look at the dynamics of a Flywheel. One side is going DOWN as the opposite side is going UP. The mass that is going down is helping the mass that is going up and vice versa. The kinetic energy of the downward motion feeds directly into the going up motion of the other side.
Now create this same dynamic without any motion at all within a circuit.. Now when we induct and withdraw power, an equal magnetic field is created in the output coil as the amount of power that we harvested. Now instead of letting that resultant magnetic field work against us (as all conventional understanding teach us), that resultant magnetic field can be used to inject an equal amount of power that we withdrew into the opposite side that is calling for that energy.
I can guess that bemf can power the electromagnets, I don’t know how Figuera did it, but it spring to my mind that use of transistors might help in switching the reverse flow (bemf) to electromagnets if self powered device is desired. (I can attach a patent for this if needed). Eventually look at wikipedia classification (scroll down page)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternator
Whatever design you have in mind, the principle is same like a classic alternator. And here you just unfold a rotary device and place everything in 1 plane, but that means a little energy spent to energise electromagnets (each one for each coil) which produce a magnetic field “cutting” the coil wires. Adjusting the size for each electromagnet in such a manner to cover all the corresponding large coil will yield the power you seek.
Methods of power supply: little DC power for electromagnets for start, than from the output through an isolation step down transformer + inverter (remember, there is no way to have any direct link between inducer and inducted). Or just use a separate power supply.
So, a rotary armature of magnets/coil is replaced with a rotary commutator to energise sequential each electromagnet like in an alternator. Or use solid state switching. Frequency of switching = rpm of rotary commutator. Please see wikipedia link from above to find corresponding speed for frequency.
Bear in mind that everything that happens in a magnetic field takes place instant (faster than speed of light).
Also AISEG patent is basically the same with Figuera patent but a different build … i mean uses same principle of rotating a magnetic field(of a single electromagnet)to induce a curent in all coils wounded on the same core (magnetic field).
(01-06-2024, 01:09 PM)Escumo Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, the question is to synchronize the two movements, both in duration and intensity, that is, there are two coils (electromagnets N and S) while in one it is charged, at the same time, it is discharged in the opposite, this action must be completely synchronized, in addition to calculated based on the parameters of said coils
https://youtube.com/shorts/pDhoKT7XBl4?s...Yt3sRFy_vo
All the energy you want to use is already stored in any conductive materials, we use magnetic field in such way to push out all we can because using magnetic field is more efficient then thermal gradient as in Seebeck effect.
I can’t understand why you need 2 electromagnets instead of 1 when you obtain the same effect ? AC flows in both directions: to the load and back to the source via neutral line. DC flows in one direction only even if pulsed. When we see AC wave with 2 polarities actually we see a pulsed DC which doesn’t flow back to the source.
Real power of AC is 70.7% of same power DC aka true RMS for resistive loads, for inductive loads become more complicated and power factor correction must be employed for each device.
I think I see where they screwed Buforn's patents up to deceive us. Every line- lines exactly up. You don't even need to draw any new lines. You can cut pieces like a puzzle and move them to where they belong, and they match exactly perfect.
I was circling the target with this latest revelation when I merged the 2 output waves to create a real sinewave. But the triplets don't connect to the output wave.. That output wave is the final output..
Notice this part in Buforn's patent
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They screwed it up.. The left line in the red box does not go to ground. it goes to the other side of the resistor rig, and the ground goes between the 2 el-magnets. Once you move the puzzle pieces correctly, it shows almost exactly what I was doing.
They can parallel, but
must be in pairs. Like what I was doing, merge the output of a pair and we get a balanced sinewave output.
Or they can series, but each row of El-magnets needs to be an even number .. Half the El-Magnets in each row grow, as the other half of the row shrink. And the opposite row does the same thing but from the reverse side.
This creates the rotation, and when we series the outputs, the total combines to a single polarity sinewave.
So this pic is a single pair --- as his patent should show
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Then he simply parallel's off the single polarity resistor input to connect several of these pairs. Or apparently you can series the triplets. But if you series 8 triplets, you ground each row between coil 4-5. and feed one side of the resistor to the right 4, the other side of the resistor to the left 4. So you have 4 growing and 4 shrinking on each row. And the rows are moving opposite from the other on both sides of the pickup coils.
The outputs can now all combine as the phases are constructive.
I will be posting hard test data in the upcoming days
Quick question in the Buforn drawing are all three coils sharing the same core?
Also thanks to Jim and Classic for the offers but I'm have an idea for a rotating discharge since I'm already running a motor anyway
Ya sabemos que son dos bobinas por el motivo antes mencionado, una se carga y la otra se descarga, ya sabemos que una bobina o se carga o se descarga las dos cosas al mismo tiempo no se pueden lograr, pero si son dos bobinas Si, ese es el motivo, además el comportamiento de la bobina es diferente en carga ( contracorriente, receptor eléctrico, consume energía ) que en descarga ( extracorriente, generador eléctrico, no consume energía al contrario la genera ) este asunto ya lo he explico una y otra vez y no me importa repetir, pues lo que digo no lo hago por ciencia infusa, lo dijo por haber hecho pruebas y ese es el resultado, cuando ves cómo disminuyen los amperios de entrada al poner carga en la bobina inducida es la prueba principal de la realidad, hay inducción Figuera / No Lenz y es totalmente diferente a la normalmente experimentada de Faraday / Lenz. No puedo adjuntar un vídeo para mostrar lo que digo por usar un móvil, y no me permite hacerlo, anteriormente en un canal de Telegram lo hice y envié vídeos de esto y deben estar por aquí, si no se han perdido.
Actualmente ando liado con los cálculos de las bobinas y sus núcleos, en la configuración mencionada en mi hilo dinámica de flujos magnéticos en triplete Figuera, qué abrí en este mismo portal, yo no uso otro canal ni YouTube ni nada de nada. Hay muchos portales ( llamados ) de investigación pero eso es para gente que usa las pantallas para ver que hay de nuevo o que hace tal o cual persona, ósea no hacer nada, investigadores ( Búhos ) merodeando lo que hacen o dicen los demás para sacar ideas o ahorrar pruebas y con ello proclamar que están en la investigación, aunque realmente ni están ni se les espera, ellos saben los motivos.
En este asunto ( Figuera ) no hay medias tintas o le crees o no, y si le crees no pararas de hacer prototipos, y lo de estar en un portal o en otro te da igual ese no es el cometido, el cometido es hacer y ver sólo lo autentico, no perder tiempo en banalidades, pero hay personajes ( Búhos ) que están constantemente alterando la armonía del camino de investigación, y ya sea en un lugar ( portal ) o en otro, están opinando con las ideas, palabras y hechos de otros, oportunistas de las ideas o explicaciones de otros para hacerlas suyas, en fin, una forma muy poco auténtica de estar en lugares donde si hay gente auténtica qué brinda sus ideas y hallazgos a los cuatro vientos, con el único objetivo de divulgarlos no de hacer negocio.
O para ir vertiendo opiniones en foros diferentes y así sacar protagonismo qué tampoco le servirá de nada, pues lo más seguro, no habrá entendido el tema en cuestión, pero, el hecho de opinar, ya les llena su afán de protagonismo, me he encontrado con gente así y en verdad sólo me dan pena, son basura andante por el mundo sin nada en las neuronas sólo con ganas de adoptar para si lo que es de otros.
We already know that there are two coils for the aforementioned reason, one is charged and the other is discharged, we already know that a coil is either charged or discharged both at the same time cannot be achieved, but if there are two coils Yes, That is the reason, in addition the behavior of the coil is different in charge (countercurrent, electrical receiver, consumes energy) than in discharge (extracurrent, electrical generator, does not consume energy on the contrary it generates it) I have already explained this matter over and over again time and I don't mind repeating, because what I say I don't do it out of infused science, he said it because he had done tests and that is the result, when you see how the input amperes decrease when putting load on the induced coil it is the main proof of In reality, there is Figuera/Non-Lenz induction and it is totally different from the normally experienced Faraday/Lenz induction. I can't attach a video to show what I'm saying because I use a mobile phone, and it doesn't allow me to do so, I did it previously on a Telegram channel and sent videos of this and they must be here, if they haven't been lost.
I am currently busy with the calculations of the coils and their cores, in the configuration mentioned in my Figuera triplet magnetic flux dynamics thread, which I opened on this same portal, I do not use another channel or YouTube or anything at all. There are many research portals (called) but that is for people who use the screens to see what is new or what this or that person is doing, that is, doing nothing, researchers (Owls) hanging around what others do or say to find out ideas or save evidence and thereby proclaim that they are in the investigation, although they are not really there nor are they expected to, they know the reasons.
In this matter (Figuera) there are no half measures or you believe him or not, and if you believe him you will not stop making prototypes, and whether you are in one portal or another does not matter to you, that is not the mission, the mission is to make and See only what is authentic, do not waste time on banalities, but there are characters (Owls) who are constantly altering the harmony of the research path, and whether in one place (portal) or another, they are giving their opinions with ideas, words and deeds. of others, opportunists of the ideas or explanations of others to make them their own, in short, a very inauthentic way of being in places where there are authentic people who offer their ideas and findings to the four winds, with the sole objective of disseminating them, not of doing business.
Or to express opinions in different forums and thus gain prominence, which will not be of any use either, since most likely, they will not have understood the topic in question, but the fact of giving their opinion already fills their desire for protagonism, I have found with people like that and I really only feel sorry for them, they are garbage walking around the world with nothing in their neurons just wanting to adopt for themselves what belongs to others.
(01-07-2024, 04:30 AM)Shylo Wrote: [ -> ]Quick question in the Buforn drawing are all three coils sharing the same core?
Also thanks to Jim and Classic for the offers but I'm have an idea for a rotating discharge since I'm already running a motor anyway
I think so. But more trial and error is needed to know for sure. I have tried every imaginable core configuration on the standard way and every way sucked.
Escumo
Don't invest energy or concern in "armchair engineers".. If they add something valuable, then use it. If it is nonsense sputtering with no bench results behind the statement- then just move on and ignore it. The proof is in the pudding.. And all the noise will diminish and go away when someone gets the first working prototype to go overunity.
Now repeating what I said in a simpler way.
We have all tried to induct with 1 electromagnet row growing and 1 shrinking. And it SUCKS.. The output wave is never good. In this manner, we are not rotating like a dynamo.. This was is just pumping or pulsing back and forth.
But when you use a PAIR of triplets (or an even number of triplets), where half grow and half shrink on each row, only then do you get ROTATION within the triplets. And your output wave will look correct
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Another part, I was going to post yesterday but held off.. When an electromagnet is shrinking, the voltage potential of of the shrinking electromagnet on the positive side dips to well BELOW the potential of the supply ground. So when one side grows, the return current is paralleled with the ground and the shrinking electromagnet input. A good portion of the return current should choose to travel through the shrinking EL-magnets as they become the path of least resistance. And since the ground itself has more potential on that cycle, it may even start feeding power from ground to the shrinking el-magnet.
It’s all about the method of extracting electric power from a coil. All the electric energy we need is already there, in conductive materials.
I hope I will find enough time soon to to make some drawings showing the mechanism to extract and anyone can make up their minds which method want to employ according to their skills and knowledge when they understand principle of manipulation of magnetic field and gradient potential.
At least I can share all I know about it, as I am not the holder of the supreme truth.
Is it really possible that even on Christmas a miracle won’t happen and someone won’t make a perpetual motion machine?
(01-07-2024, 07:59 AM)Jim Mac Wrote: [ -> ] (01-07-2024, 04:30 AM)Shylo Wrote: [ -> ]Quick question in the Buforn drawing are all three coils sharing the same core?
Also thanks to Jim and Classic for the offers but I'm have an idea for a rotating discharge since I'm already running a motor anyway
I think so. But more trial and error is needed to know for sure. I have tried every imaginable core configuration on the standard way and every way sucked.
Escumo
Don't invest energy or concern in "armchair engineers".. If they add something valuable, then use it. If it is nonsense sputtering with no bench results behind the statement- then just move on and ignore it. The proof is in the pudding.. And all the noise will diminish and go away when someone gets the first working prototype to go overunity.
Now repeating what I said in a simpler way.
We have all tried to induct with 1 electromagnet row growing and 1 shrinking. And it SUCKS.. The output wave is never good. In this manner, we are not rotating like a dynamo.. This was is just pumping or pulsing back and forth.
But when you use a PAIR of triplets (or an even number of triplets), where half grow and half shrink on each row, only then do you get ROTATION within the triplets. And your output wave will look correct
Another part, I was going to post yesterday but held off.. When an electromagnet is shrinking, the voltage potential of of the shrinking electromagnet on the positive side dips to well BELOW the potential of the supply ground. So when one side grows, the return current is paralleled with the ground and the shrinking electromagnet input. A good portion of the return current should choose to travel through the shrinking EL-magnets as they become the path of least resistance. And since the ground itself has more potential on that cycle, it may even start feeding power from ground to the shrinking el-magnet.
Jim, I don't spend my time on those tasks, it just coincided in time, when I saw opinions in other forums and I thought it was appropriate to comment on it in this forum so that we are aware of what exists around us, that's all it is and nothing more.
Regarding the rotation of the magnetic field that you mention, this still gives me some headaches but I see it in the following way; If the magnetic field caused by a current passing through a conductor is perpendicular to the direction of said current, then we can think that if the conductor is in an ellipse configuration forming twists, loops, turns or spirals forming a winding or coil, it is logical to think that The magnetic field is rotating geometrically inside the coil, whether alternating or continuous, the magnetic field follows the geometry of the conductor and if it is a circle or coil, the field rotates 360 degrees, each coil of the coil OK???
And if there is something miraculous in these matters, Christmas or not, it is the reality of seeing and hearing real people giving their opinion about the Figuera system, that is a miracle, there is no doubt about it.