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(01-31-2025, 02:46 AM)Lasco Wrote: [ -> ]if this symbol is interceptor in a timely fashion (on the same shaft as the commutator) then where is the connection for the outside DC  power source?

As I am trying,  Primary electromagnets, resistor and main commutator is "Circuit #1".   This circuit has NO Power Source in the loop.  The circuit is Closed on itself.  So the current distributor ALWAYS produces "Constant Catalyst" when ANY current is in the loop.

"Circuit #2"  is the Output coils..  Foreign Power is inserted INTO the Output coil..  This INDUCES Current into Primary Circuit #1.  

Circuit #1 will Oscillate the Foreign Power that was Induced into it-   and create Output from Through Some  Coils.  

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"Foreign Commutator" is attached to the same motor that controls the Main commutator.  It shares the same shaft because the FOREIGN Power needs to be in the same Phase as Circuit #1's oscillations through the resistor.   Power Source is fed to the "Foreign Commutator" to create AC.  This AC is the "Foreign Power Source"..  And it is ran through an Output Coil.  

Output Coil INDUCES "Circuit #1".  Puts Current INTO "Circuit #1" that is closed..  "Circuit #1" now oscillates this current and induces other Output Coils.  

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This is my electronic version..  Blue is Oscillation output of "Primary Circuit" through a transformer for isolation.  Yellow is "Foreign Commutator" phase.  They Match Phase Pretty Good..  

The YELLOW current is ran through the Output Coil..    Now "Circuit #1" has Current Flowing in it with no power source cut in!  

Make sense kinda?
Here We Go..  

I am inducing IN..  The main circuit closed onto itself..  Look at the current running through the circuit! The efficiency looks Excellent for 1 coil set!



Now I have an oscillating circuit-  closed onto itself - that has decent power within.. (using External Driving Current)  Imagine what will happen once I place the additional triplet coils in, so this oscillating current Induces output coils..  

The idea is,  once the coil's are cut in,  the output is used to take the place of the "Foreign Current Source". 

Hope it's making sense now..  I am Inducing INTO the Figuera, with No Supply within the circuit..  The Figuera produces a "Constant Catalyst"  just like a generator spinning..  The DC you see on the meter is Flowing INSIDE the Primary Circuit and will Oscillate the other electromagnets..  I am hoping that when I loop the output back to replace the "Foreign Current supply", the Output will load the primary circuit, which Loads the Outside Inducing Coil, which in turn pulls it from the Output coils.
Very good approach, so the catalyst is the current itself ??? either initially external and then internal ??? so based on that approach what role does the iron in the core of the coils play ???? Thanks Jim for your new vision and for the answers !!!
(02-01-2025, 05:04 AM)Escumo Wrote: [ -> ]Very good approach, so the catalyst is the current itself ??? either initially external and then internal ??? so based on that approach what role does the iron in the core of the coils play ???? Thanks Jim for your new vision and for the answers !!!

Good morning Escumo..

"The Catalyst" - -  is what causes Magnetic Fields Strength to Change.
"The Catalyst" - -  is the fact that one coil is gaining resistance and the other is shrinking resistance  and repeating.  
"The Catalyst" - -  is the mechanism that causes the current to Oscillate or Grow and Shrink in strength..

Without a "Catalyst", There is NO Induction.  


In a transformer, the "Catalyst" and the Current are Linked..  The Alternating Current Source IS the Catalyst..  They are NOT able to be separated...

But in a Generator or Dynamo, the "Catalyst" and Source current are SEPARATE..  It is the movement of the Rotor Coil that is the Catalyst in a generator..  

In a generator,  the action that causes the catalyst (rotation) can occur REGARDLESS is there is an energy source or not..  The rotor can still rotate even when not powered. - creating the catalyst..  So the catalyst and source energy are totally SEPARATE and not dependent on each other..

In the Figuera,  the multi-pole commutator and resistor rig is the "Catalyst".  Figuera called it the "current distributor".  It is this that causes the magnetic field to constantly change.  The "Current Distributor" is totally Separate from the source current.  We have total control of the "Catalyst"  regardless of the input source..  


I have not reached conclusions on how the cores / coils will best operate, nor am I convinced on the "Foreign Current Source" placement.  

What I AM Sure Of:

The Figuera Setup gives us 2 current paths..  The "Exciting Current Path" and the "Mutually Induced Path".  

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It MUST be configured with the parameters that allow the Source current to travel the outer path and through the inner loop.  But the Mutual Induced current back into the primary should stay within the Inside Loop.  So the Induced EMF now becomes "Assistive EMF" and does not travel back through the battery raising input.
hello Jim

I experimented with a triplet. A DC voltage of 24 volts was split via a simple commutator into AC and fed into a secondary coil. Two primaries exhibited some induction, stimulated via the commutator with resistors. this was a self-contained circuit.

could not work out any variations in primaries, they just simply followed secondary induction 
this was with steel cores in primaries and secondary coil with no core .


Primaries were induced with a secondary coil, exhibiting some energy. I'm just not sure if I'm gaining anything beyond simple induction.


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I did a similar test.  I noticed almost all the current stayed contained the inner electromagnet loop and chose to travel through the resistor to return, rather than take the outside commutator lead path.  It was very insightful about the behavior of the system.

I think there must be a way to make the system pull from itself. Almost like 2 induction processes need to happen, which enable 1 induction EMF to pull from the other, and vice versa.
(02-02-2025, 08:58 AM)Jim Mac Wrote: [ -> ]I did a similar test.  I noticed almost all the current stayed contained the inner electromagnet loop and chose to travel through the resistor to return, rather than take the outside commutator lead path.  It was very insightful about the behavior of the system.

I think there must be a way to make the system pull from itself. Almost like 2 induction processes need to happen, which enable 1 induction EMF to pull from the other, and vice versa.

I will try interaptor in position of Buforn drawing-little square with three lines marked with small circle 

This require new commutator build 

Lasco
(02-02-2025, 04:39 PM)Lasco Wrote: [ -> ]I will try interaptor in position of Buforn drawing-little square with three lines marked with small circle 

This require new commutator build 

Lasco

What is a " interaptor"  ?  Can you explain more for me and the purpose?
(02-02-2025, 07:26 PM)Jim Mac Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-02-2025, 04:39 PM)Lasco Wrote: [ -> ]I will try interaptor in position of Buforn drawing-little square with three lines marked with small circle 

This require new commutator build 

Lasco

What is a " interaptor"  ?  Can you explain more for me and the purpose?

I think that I perhaps using wrong name for this item highlighted in my picture
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(02-02-2025, 08:31 PM)Lasco Wrote: [ -> ]I think that I perhaps using wrong name for this item highlighted in my picture

I often wonder what that symbol represents.  I asked AI to do a deep search and AI seems to suggest it is a rheostat. I am not so sure tho..
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