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Finally I have Commutator completed

It needed upgrades 

I have used only resistive load and each resistance was 1 ohm and load was 10 ohm for “S” and 10 ohms for “N”

It firstly returned very untidy voltage on the scope [attachment=1044]
On secondary was this [attachment=1045]
Investigation revealed that the brush was to small and pressure was not adequate 
After rectifying [attachment=1046]

Picture of brush detail [attachment=1047]
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One commutator is distributing for S and N
Other commutator is AC to DC converter
Lasco!

nice wave....

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Can you describe the resistor values ?  How many ohms between each commutator connection point?  You managed to get the waves very symmetrical, I would like to hear all the resistor details please.

Good work!
Hello 

I can’t stress enough that commutator is most important part of aether harvesting energy generator

It is commutator that is distributing electricity to the coils it is commutator that is discharging energy from one set of coils to other set of coils and it is commutator that feeds energy from secondary coils to sustain its operations 
Highly recommend to study Julio’s Gobbi research paper 

Link : https://www.academia.edu/60299783/The_De...te_Figuera


This is not over-unity system but rather energy from aether harvesting device

That is why it has not yielded any results for many years of attempts at replication 

This commutator is my fifth unit and I’m working on new model Number Six

To test commutator is really irrelevant what resistance you use because resistance is used as voltage divider to see if brushes working correctly and have clean signal 

Anything from this point is amplified on primary coils and of course secondary will follow 
Bad input bad output 

In my experiment I have used resistors one ohm as shown in Figuera drawing and instead coils I have used 10ohm each
Oscilloscope was on the 10 ohm resistors to inspect wave forms
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This is the jig to attempt to harvest free energy from air
And other photos are from resistance used

For experiments 

I’m not sure that required resistors values but if current will be around 5A @ 40V then resistors will be just fraction of ohm valued by ohm law
For example if I would need to drop to 20V then I would need total resistance of 4 ohms that means just 4/7=0.57ohm


At this stage it is experimental 
Note for calculations that core is 70x70mm and 150mm long
Magnet wire is copper 1.6mm in diameter and 2000 turns
Every 500 turns is outside to be able utilise 4 x options
500 turns 1000 turns 1500turns and 2000 turns
I’m struggling with the weight barely can lift it
Here is wave form on oscilloscope on the primary coils with 50 hz frequency
Latest from my bench
It seams to me that 1.6mm wire is not strong enough and with increased turns it actually performs worse 
Best performance is on first 500 turns and about 6 A @ 30v
I must wind 2.2 mm wire and to get the same current it must be @ least 1000 to 1500 turns 
Secondary had nice output just not high enough voltage ( only 9.8V ) 400 turns with 0.6 mm wire
See picture taken [attachment=1073]
Yellow is primary coil and blue is secondary coil
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGWfstUY8R8

today I have revisited the Figuera generator Patent and I reading:
"Watching closely what happens in a Dynamo in motion"

then I got an idea to search for dynamo and here you go:

https://antiquefanparts.com/late-1800s-c...ro-dynamo/

https://www.thehenryford.org/collections...=gs-386082

https://www.google.com/search?q=late+180...s-wiz-serp

I have noticed that one thing is in common on dynamos - field coils are big !!!!!! I mean big !!
If Figuera was constructing his motionless dynamo on the basis of observations of other dynamos it had to have big primaries 
there is a few Antique Dynamos on YouTube

Jim check it out please, we most likely missing something. 
Lasco
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(05-19-2024, 05:00 AM)Lasco Wrote: [ -> ]Latest from my bench
It seems to me that 1.6mm wire is not strong enough and with increased turns it actually performs worse 
The best performance is on the first 500 turns and about 6 A @ 30v
I must wind 2.2 mm wire and to get the same current it must be @ least 1000 to 1500 turns 

the assumption for thicker wire is correct, I will use 10 gauge wire and wind each coil with 160 turns 6 x.   Then I can try 160 turns or 320 turns 480 turns , 640 turns, 800 turns and 960 turns if connected in series or parallel or parallel and series.
Buenos días Lasco. Espero estes mejor de tus dolencias médicas y todo haya quedado en un mal rato y nada más. Respecto a lo comentado en tu último mensaje, si llevas razón hay que mirar, y mucho, los diseños antiguos donde veremos lo que apuntas, hay dos formas de hacer, que aumentan la fuerza magnética. una es aumentar la intensidad que pasa por la bobina, la otra, aumentar el número de vueltas de la bobina, entre las dos hay que buscar un equilibrio para optimizar la fuerza magnética, así, entendemos que la intensidad, como. nos dice Figuera, es la base de su sistema, ósea, hay que crear intensidad alta y variarla, de un máximo a un mínimo, en su distribuidor, cómo comenté hay dos formas de aprovechar la intensidad eléctrica, una como calor, no aprovechable, la otra como campo magnético, totalmente recuperable, es decir, la intensidad de la corriente varia y crea fuerza magnética que podemos recuperar, las resistencias no sirven, como tal, hay que añadir el factor recuperable de ellas, así Figuera dice que estúdiemos la “ R “ como una Resistencia eléctrica como concepto no cómo funciona realmente en su sistema.

Buenos días Lasco. Espero que estés mejor de tus dolencias médicas y todo haya terminado en un mal momento y nada más. Respecto a lo mencionado en tu último mensaje, si tienes razón hay que mirar mucho los diseños antiguos donde veremos lo que señalas, hay dos formas de aumentar la fuerza magnética. una es aumentar la intensidad que pasa por la bobina, la otra es aumentar el número de vueltas de la bobina, entre ambas debemos buscar un equilibrio para optimizar la fuerza magnética, así entendemos que la intensidad, como. Nos dice Figuera, es la base de su sistema, es decir, tienes que crear alta intensidad y variarla, de máximo a mínimo, en tu distribuidor, como te comenté hay dos formas de aprovechar la intensidad eléctrica. , uno como calor, no aprovechable, el otro como campo magnético, completamente recuperable, es decir, la intensidad de la corriente varía y crea fuerza magnética que podemos recuperar, las resistencias no son útiles, como tal, hay que sumar las recuperables. factor de ellos, por lo que Figuera dice que estudiamos la "R" como una resistencia eléctrica como un concepto, no cómo funciona realmente en su sistema.
Thank you Escumo

I'm thinking the same, and trying to find the solution to get good magnetism, perhaps the cores in Figueras generator have been magnetized? what do you think?
(05-24-2024, 09:21 PM)Lasco Wrote: [ -> ]Thank you Escumo

I'm thinking the same, and trying to find the solution to get good magnetism, perhaps the cores in Figueras generator have been magnetized?  what do you think?

My opinion about Figuera.
He says that his inventor is still an electrical transformer, now a transformer, we all know how a transformer works. I have sent a video through which I wanted to show how the inductance varies between the primary and secondary and that type of transformers offer us some possibilities.
Understanding the electrical transforming action in an electrical transformer is the most important thing, I think we can think and see all the possibilities that are open to us, well, it is clear that with electrical resistance, pure and simple, we are not going anywhere, that is already We have experienced it and nothing is achieved, so we have to go a different path and that is transformative action.
It represents the real possibility of doing something different, given that Figuera ultimately said that his invention was neither more nor less than an electrical transformer.
In fact, the transforming action allows us to create, by conversion, induced electrical voltage/intensity, thus, if for example we use 1 ampere at 220 Vac, we can transform this ampere to a much higher value and consequently we open a range of possibilities, real, to understand the Figuera transformer, then, if the power relationship must be the same, it may be, according to electrotechnical theory, that if we use a different method that conversion will be in our favor or better in favor of the Figuera system
This is my current opinion and it is what I am building at this time, supported by different motor starting circuits using power rheostats that use electrical conversion through electrical resistance, but taking advantage of the inductive effect that it causes in iron, This form was widely used in 1900 for starting power switches to avoid the damage of voltage drop that originated in the power line until the motor reached the nominal speed.
Lasco, I hope I have been able to convey my opinion to you and that you can understand it.
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